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February 7, 2015 at 6:02 pm #230531
Brandon D ChristParticipantI've noticed several threads lately that all seem the have the same common concept behind them, and that is the concept that CNS is the fat loss protocol, and CBL is the muscle gain protocol, and people treat them mutually exclusively.Stop being afraid of carbs! In many situations, CBL can be just as, if not more, effective for fat loss than CNS. I personally find losing fat on CBL much easier than on CNS.
Very well said. I don't know how this meme started.
February 7, 2015 at 6:44 pm #230532
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorI've noticed several threads lately that all seem the have the same common concept behind them, and that is the concept that CNS is the fat loss protocol, and CBL is the muscle gain protocol, and people treat them mutually exclusively.Stop being afraid of carbs! In many situations, CBL can be just as, if not more, effective for fat loss than CNS. I personally find losing fat on CBL much easier than on CNS.
Very well said. I don't know how this meme started.
Agreed.Facebook is God awful about this.
February 7, 2015 at 6:46 pm #230533
Brandon D ChristParticipantI've noticed several threads lately that all seem the have the same common concept behind them, and that is the concept that CNS is the fat loss protocol, and CBL is the muscle gain protocol, and people treat them mutually exclusively.Stop being afraid of carbs! In many situations, CBL can be just as, if not more, effective for fat loss than CNS. I personally find losing fat on CBL much easier than on CNS.
Very well said. I don't know how this meme started.
Agreed.Facebook is God awful about this.
Actually I lied I know how the meme started. People kept screwing up CBL and overeating. Then people kept saying something along the lines of "well CBL really isn't for losing fat, so you should just do CNS".
February 7, 2015 at 6:53 pm #230534
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorI've noticed several threads lately that all seem the have the same common concept behind them, and that is the concept that CNS is the fat loss protocol, and CBL is the muscle gain protocol, and people treat them mutually exclusively.Stop being afraid of carbs! In many situations, CBL can be just as, if not more, effective for fat loss than CNS. I personally find losing fat on CBL much easier than on CNS.
Very well said. I don't know how this meme started.
Agreed.Facebook is God awful about this.
Actually I lied I know how the meme started. People kept screwing up CBL and overeating. Then people kept saying something along the lines of "well CBL really isn't for losing fat, so you should just do CNS".
Pretty much.
February 15, 2015 at 4:13 am #230535
Caleb BasingerParticipantI'm wondering which protocol I should be on. I really want to bulk up my muscles, while also losing some more in my belly. Because of what I read about the two protocols on the forums, I feel that these two goals are opposing each other. Just the idea that I would have to have to shrink down sooo small (15% BF) before I can start CBL (to grow muscles) is aggravating. But I do really want to shrink my belly size, finally getting some abs at the same time.I'll post a picture, maybe someone can give me some advice as to whether it's time to try CBL or not.https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2tf6mh37mgmwgm/BodyShot.jpg?dl=0Thanks in advance.
February 15, 2015 at 5:03 am #230536
Richard SchmittModeratorYou could do CBL SA as normal, just need to monitor your carb intake. Nice photobombers
February 15, 2015 at 5:04 am #230537
SBreezeParticipantI'm wondering which protocol I should be on. I really want to bulk up my muscles, while also losing some more in my belly. Because of what I read about the two protocols on the forums, I feel that these two goals are opposing each other. Just the idea that I would have to have to shrink down sooo small (15% BF) before I can start CBL (to grow muscles) is aggravating. But I do really want to shrink my belly size, finally getting some abs at the same time.I'll post a picture, maybe someone can give me some advice as to whether it's time to try CBL or not.https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2tf6mh37mgmwgm/BodyShot.jpg?dl=0Thanks in advance.
I don't know, if it were me I'd do CNS for a bit and "build your muscles" by increasing foundational strength and cutting a bit. Reason is hormonally having less fat will allow for faster easier hypertrophy.Who knows, you might even hypertrophy while on CNS not really unheard of.
February 15, 2015 at 9:28 pm #230538
Brandon D ChristParticipantI'm wondering which protocol I should be on. I really want to bulk up my muscles, while also losing some more in my belly. Because of what I read about the two protocols on the forums, I feel that these two goals are opposing each other. Just the idea that I would have to have to shrink down sooo small (15% BF) before I can start CBL (to grow muscles) is aggravating. But I do really want to shrink my belly size, finally getting some abs at the same time.I'll post a picture, maybe someone can give me some advice as to whether it's time to try CBL or not.https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2tf6mh37mgmwgm/BodyShot.jpg?dl=0Thanks in advance.
I don't know, if it were me I'd do CNS for a bit and "build your muscles" by increasing foundational strength and cutting a bit. Reason is hormonally having less fat will allow for faster easier hypertrophy.Who knows, you might even hypertrophy while on CNS not really unheard of.
With CBL you can do both, so why not kills two words with one stone? I agree with you that being lean helps you build muscle (unless you are ridiculously lean), but you can watch your carb intake until say 10-12% body fat then use a more aggressive approach with carbs.
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