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If a meal has different protein sources, for example two eggs and a can of sardines which amounts to 30 grams of protein, does the digest times vary for the protein sources and will I still get the benefits of protein synthesis with a mix protein meal?
If there is any difference, it's not going to vary enough that it will matter.
Yeah I finished it now and I agree.My last meal is 1030 pm so I figure spreading it out as follows will work11:30 am 25-35g of pro from eggs or beef 3:00 pm probably 50-60g of pro6:30-830 periworkout nutrition9-10:30 rest of cals and proWhat do you think? And I would say on CNS you should and could push pro higher since you dont have carbs to spare them.
That looks good to me. I would wait 'til as late as possible to get your last dose of protein in in your 9-10:30 meal, but that's just me. If you're not having protein from 3 until the end of your workout at ~8:30, though, then I'd dose some leucine/BCAAs at around the 5:00-5:30 pm mark. But if you're getting protein pre-workout or intra-workout, then it's not necessary.I re-started backloading this week, but still only doing it 2x per week. You probably could push your protein up if you're eating at a deficit just so any aminos that get used for energy will have ample replacement for MPS substrate. From what I've heard, it kind of works the other way around, though. As in, your body will first use up to the threshold amount of AAs as substrate for MPS, and anything ingested over that amount within that ~4 hour time range that he was talking about will get used for other purposes.
That last bit makes a lot of sense, thanks for that info. As for my protein, after 3 oclock my next protein dose 10g of hydrowhey intra-wo, think I should bump that up ?But I am also gonna get some leucine for intra which should do the trick.
I think 10g intra-workout is fine as long as you're doing 30-40g in your post workout shake.
alright I am doing 45g of hydrowhey in my pwo shake, but I am gonna add 5g leucine to both shakes soon Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2
If I understand this stuff correctly, the 5g PWO is not going to be put towards MPS, especially if you just took 5g intra workout. Since you're going to be eating lots of protein starting with your PWO shake, you're going to be getting a large amount of leucine sufficient to maximally stimulate MPS. Now 5g of leucine PWO will increase your insulin response, but I personally find it kind of a waste to just use leucine to elicit an insulin response when it's kind of expensive. According to Layne's theory, that 5g of leucine would be better suited between 2 of your earlier meals, like maybe at 4:30 to re-stimulate MPS while it's not too early in the day for leucine's effects on insulin and fat burning.Of course, the better question is whether you can stomach 5g of leucine in isolation lol because I can't stand the shit by itself. I have to mix it in with some diet soda.
Yeah I finished it now and I agree.My last meal is 1030 pm so I figure spreading it out as follows will work11:30 am 25-35g of pro from eggs or beef 3:00 pm probably 50-60g of pro6:30-830 periworkout nutrition9-10:30 rest of cals and proWhat do you think? And I would say on CNS you should and could push pro higher since you dont have carbs to spare them.
That looks good to me. I would wait 'til as late as possible to get your last dose of protein in in your 9-10:30 meal, but that's just me. If you're not having protein from 3 until the end of your workout at ~8:30, though, then I'd dose some leucine/BCAAs at around the 5:00-5:30 pm mark. But if you're getting protein pre-workout or intra-workout, then it's not necessary.I re-started backloading this week, but still only doing it 2x per week. You probably could push your protein up if you're eating at a deficit just so any aminos that get used for energy will have ample replacement for MPS substrate. From what I've heard, it kind of works the other way around, though. As in, your body will first use up to the threshold amount of AAs as substrate for MPS, and anything ingested over that amount within that ~4 hour time range that he was talking about will get used for other purposes.
That last bit makes a lot of sense, thanks for that info. As for my protein, after 3 oclock my next protein dose 10g of hydrowhey intra-wo, think I should bump that up ?But I am also gonna get some leucine for intra which should do the trick.
I think 10g intra-workout is fine as long as you're doing 30-40g in your post workout shake.
alright I am doing 45g of hydrowhey in my pwo shake, but I am gonna add 5g leucine to both shakes soon Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2
If I understand this stuff correctly, the 5g PWO is not going to be put towards MPS, especially if you just took 5g intra workout. Since you're going to be eating lots of protein starting with your PWO shake, you're going to be getting a large amount of leucine sufficient to maximally stimulate MPS. Now 5g of leucine PWO will increase your insulin response, but I personally find it kind of a waste to just use leucine to elicit an insulin response when it's kind of expensive. According to Layne's theory, that 5g of leucine would be better suited between 2 of your earlier meals, like maybe at 4:30 to re-stimulate MPS while it's not too early in the day for leucine's effects on insulin and fat burning.Of course, the better question is whether you can stomach 5g of leucine in isolation lol because I can't stand the shit by itself. I have to mix it in with some diet soda.
Ok good point well now I will structure it like this then11:00 whole food meal3:00whole food meal5:30 5g leucine 6:30Intra with 15g hydrowhey8-10:30 shit tons of protein lolAnd I used to just put the 5g under my tongue and swallow
Thanks for all the help buddy, much appreciated!
No problemo, my dude. Always enjoy geeking out on this stuff haha.
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