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Hi Guys,What would you say would be a "perfect" PWO shake for someone doing SA who wants to maximize muscle gain and keep fat loss to minimal.I have been looking over the forums and there seems to be some different recommendations, ranging from peptopro to hydro, iso, concentrate etc.I generally only have caffeine pre-workout and like to start my pwo shake about 15min before the end of my session(to allow extra time to backload after, as i train fairly late).Is there much difference between using peptopro and hydro? Is Peptopro a superior product?Thanks for the input.
Hi Tex,Thanks for the reply,Yes i have read the book, currently i use 1/2Scoop Whey Concentrate + 1 Scoop Hydro Whey + 50GR Malto+5Gr Creatine+ 8gr BCAA(have a tub from before, once this is finished i will get just leucine)I just wanted to know what other members were doing as i know some of the recommendations from the book have changed. I am about to run out of my Hydro whey and was curious if it was worth upgrading to PeptoPro.
Hi Tex,Thanks for the reply,Yes i have read the book, currently i use 1/2Scoop Whey Concentrate + 1 Scoop Hydro Whey + 50GR Malto+5Gr Creatine+ 8gr BCAA(have a tub from before, once this is finished i will get just leucine)I just wanted to know what other members were doing as i know some of the recommendations from the book have changed. I am about to run out of my Hydro whey and was curious if it was worth upgrading to PeptoPro.
Is there a way you can get ahold of Blend H from proteinfactory.com? I know that stuff is faily legit with CBL, just tag that with creatine and leucine and you'll be good to go. Personally I use Dymatize ISO 100 with Leucine with CNS and probably continue that same way with CBL SA.
I live in Aus, i will check out what the shipping costs are to deliver to AUS.Usually they can be expensive but i will see how it pans out.Thanks for the input Tex.
As I've testitfied to in other posts, I am a 'true believer' in TrueNutrition's custom mixes.I've worked out the following using two separate mixes to deliver the precise (near as, anyway) amounts per the recommendations for CBL SA:PROTEIN MIX (40g svg):PEPTO PRO*^ - 15% (81% Pro per 30g scoop, Yields 6g pro per 40g svg)MICELLAR CASEIN - 30% (83% Pro per 30g scoop, Yields 12g pro per 40g svg)HYDROLYZED WHEY HIGH GRADE^ - 15% (81% pro per 30g scoop, Yields 6g pro per 40g svg)WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE (CFM) - 40% (88% pro per 30g scoop, Yields 16g pro per 40g svg)*could sub Hydrolyzed Casein for cost^could go all-in (30%) of one or other per book, I split between to try to leverage benefits of bothADD-ONS MIX (30g svg):DEXTROSE or AMYLOCEL or MALTODEXTRIN or WHOLE GRAIN BROWN RICE CARB (=Rilose)~ - 75% (22.5g/svg)L-LEUCINE - 10% (3g/svg)CREAPURE - 15% (4.5g/svg)~I'm coming down on the lower end of the carbs for the PWO due to lower end of the bodyweight spectrum (male 5'5"/160#/12%BF).I believe TN now has an Australian 'branch' so maybe you will be in luck...
Marty- what flavoring did you use. Agreed- been using them for years
I alternate between the Chocolate Coconut and the Mocha Java (something like that). For my CNS blend (not listed here, but only isolate, whey hydrolysate, PeptoPro and Leucine/Creatine) I use something tart such as the Wild Berry Blast or event the Lemonade due to the bitterness of the hydrolysates. Was using the chocolate-types but couldn't mask that nastiness. Someone on the board actually suggested the switch and it worked out.Sad thing is they have removed ALL the items formerly on the 'Supplements' tab due to some new FDA regulations, so the ability to make high-precision custom-mixes is gone for now. One has to buy everything in 100g increments, and any flavoring separately, then mix together himself. They say they will have a 'brand-new' custom mix system up and running in about a month that will be certified for FDA standards. As my experience tells me these things rarely come in on schedule, it may be awhile before the good ol' TN is back up and running...
250g of very ripe bananasmaybe some dextrose (30g)5g creatineand 30g Whey Isolateweighing around 148lbsI dont see any reason to use more Whey Isolate at my bodyweight when I start backloading with 250g of chicken breast 45 minutes after the PWOShakeSeems to work great for me atleast.
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