pH and cancer

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    Shane Layton
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    Lately, after seeing posts floating around Facebook about Dr. Warburg's Nobel prize (in 1931) for discovering that cancer cells cannot survive in an alkaline environment, I've been curious about the ramifications of CNS/CBL, if any. Is there any validity to the claim that cancer can't survive in alkaline environments? Scouring PubMed results in a litany of studies related to pH therapy for cancer. After reading many abstratcs, some of the studies indicate successful killing of cancer cells, using cesium, rubidium and sodium bicarbonate, all elements (I know sodium bicarbonate isn't an element) that increase alkalinity. Thoughts? Experience?Many websites devoted to pH balanced diets say that many of our staples for CNS/CBL, especially beef, is an extremely acidic food source. Is there any validity to this?I would have to assume, after the little bit of research that I've done, that cancer cells ARE sensitive to pH levels, and cannot easily survive in levels above ~8.0. Conversely, I'd also have to assume that they thrive in more acidic pH. So, I'm left with wondering if foods like beef, that are believed to be extremely acidic, actually  drive our overall pH to be more acidic? Should we be concerned? Should be we be cycling our high acidic foods with high alkaline foods? Is this all complete BS?Thanks in advance

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    Powergirl36
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    Totally legit thought…

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    Shane Layton
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    After doing a little more research, I think I can shed a little more light on this subject now.Our bodies have mechanisms in place to regulate our blood pH in the very tight range of 7.35 - 7.45. These mechanisms include the Carbonic Acid-Bicarbonate buffer system,  protein buffer system, phosphate buffer system, exhalation of carbon dioxide, and elimination of hydrogen ions via our kidneys. Eating highly acidic or alkaline foods don't have an immediate or direct effect on our pH. However, my understanding is that eating foods far outside that ideal range over time can overtax our buffering systems. So, eating highly acidic foods can overtax our buffering systems, thereby having an acid forming effect. Here's an example taken from this website:http://drbenkim.com/ph-body-blood-foods-acid-alkaline.htm "Your phosphate buffer system uses different phosphate ions in your body to neutralize strong acids and bases. About 85% of the phosphate ions that are used in your phosphate buffer system comes from calcium phosphate salts, which are structural components of your bones and teeth. If your body fluids are regularly exposed to large quantities of acid-forming foods and liquids, your body will draw upon its calcium phosphate reserves to supply your phosphate buffer system to neutralize the acid-forming effects of your diet. Over time, this may lead to structural weakness in your bones and teeth."I still don't know how accurate this information is, but it makes enough sense to warrant further research. From what I gather thus far, eating lots of meat (highly acidic), coupled with veggies (highly alkaline) here and there, probably isn't an issue. But, eating solely acidic foods for a prolonged period of time may be an issue.I'd love to hear from someone that knows more about this subject.

    #76686

    Fairy
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    Yep, I've heard about this too. John Berardi on PrecisionNutrition.com did a video series on it if you want to look it up. An easy solution for us here might be to look at the bone density of Eskimos? Or, drink more bone broth?

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    jjd040
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    sorry to be resurrecting dead threads, but bump. i'm very curious about this.would increased veggies during ULC portions of the day act as enough of a buffer against eating large amounts of acidic foods like beef? i've also read recently (i believe on these forums) that a keto diet can effectively kill cancer cells by depriving them of glucose, unlike normal cells that can adapt to fat as fuel. is this benefit negated by the excessive carbs consumed during your backload?

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    jreinhal
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    Great thread. I'd love to hear more. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 4

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    sorry to be resurrecting dead threads, but bump. i'm very curious about this.would increased veggies during ULC portions of the day act as enough of a buffer against eating large amounts of acidic foods like beef? i've also read recently (i believe on these forums) that a keto diet can effectively kill cancer cells by depriving them of glucose, unlike normal cells that can adapt to fat as fuel. is this benefit negated by the excessive carbs consumed during your backload?

    The starving of cancer cells is correct.You body is self regulating with it's blood pH levels, eat veggies for taste, texture, and food volume and don't worry about pH buffer.

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