protein protocol2.0

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    bigguysky
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    Is the protein protocol 2.0  used for cbl and cns? He makes it sound like a must.

    #120419

    Richard Schmitt
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    Is this a new article on the site or the old previous one?

    #120420

    Old. And no, no supplement is needed.Can using WPI, Leucine and hydrolyzed proteins help? Yes.Do you need them for CBL to work? no.

    #120421

    bigguysky
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    What about cns?  and why does it make it seem so crucial in that article    as if thats the key to growth?

    #120422

    Richard Schmitt
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    What about cns?  and why does it make it seem so crucial in that article    as if thats the key to growth?

    Leucine helps that muscle growth/Hypertrophy. Does the exact samething as carbs without refilling glycogen stores.

    #120423

    bigguysky
    Member

    Im talking about the very specific blends of protein at the right times. And are you saying i should start taking leucine with meals on cns

    #120424

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Im talking about the very specific blends of protein at the right times. And are you saying i should start taking leucine with meals on cns

    No because it spikes insulin levels halting fat burning. You can if fat loss is not your primary concern. For PWO all you need is isolate, creatine and leucine. 1 scoop of isolate, 5-10g creatine and 3-5g leucine.

    #120425

    bigguysky
    Member

    Soooo why is he talking about it if it doesnt go with any of his diets? Would it just be for a typical bb diet

    #120426

    Soooo why is he talking about it if it doesnt go with any of his diets? Would it just be for a typical bb diet

    Firstly, it's an old article.His knowledge has grown since then and for the most part he would rather people avoid powders while they are ULC, and then use protein powders PWO. Adding the leucine and hydrolyzed proteins help squeeze the last little bit of possible hypertrophy out of what your doing even if you are not using carbs, but they aren't need and you can grow muscle without them.

    #120427

    bigguysky
    Member

    Ok makes more since now. I didnt realize its that old of an article and he made it sound like he had found the ultimate anabolic key. But ok  im kinda glad cuz that custom protein is pricey.  So only time for powder is pwo?and needs to be hydro whey? Ive been mixing a little casein with my cottage cheese before bed    that ok?

    #120428

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Isolate works perfect in the PWO Shake. You can have isolate during the day, just do the recipe recommended in the book as an AM Shake. Casein with some cottage cheese is ok too.

    #120429

    Ok makes more since now. I didnt realize its that old of an article and he made it sound like he had found the ultimate anabolic key. But ok  im kinda glad cuz that custom protein is pricey.  So only time for powder is pwo?and needs to be hydro whey? Ive been mixing a little casein with my cottage cheese before bed    that ok?

    All you need is Isolate for the PWO shake.Creatine and Leucine are cheap, so get them too.If you have the money, get some hydrolyzed proteins, I was skeptical but after using them I think it's worth it.Do whatever you want before bad, it doesn't matter that much.If you are doing CNS that might not be as good to do, but I'm sure it wont matter much.

    #120430

    bigguysky
    Member

    yeah ive been using isolyn which is an all natural hydro iso. Im set on creatine and leucine too. What would you suggest before bed on CNS or what is ideal?

    #120431

    yeah ive been using isolyn which is an all natural hydro iso. Im set on creatine and leucine too. What would you suggest before bed on CNS or what is ideal?

    Food. Or not eating depending on what you want to start your fast.I normally eat dinner which is 1lb of beef and some veggie normally about 30-60 minutes before bed.

    #120432

    bigguysky
    Member

    really? man beef seems to put me in this energetic anabolic state so i dont like to have a ton befoer bed. High fats before bed for me in general can make me not sleep well. For sure animal fats. Not a good way around it though if you cant have much plant based fats.

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