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While I do not want to mix protocols, I fully recognize the CNS advises much more protein than any other doctor, scientist, or n=1 experimenter, in regards to ketogenic diets. It is agreed universally that an excess of protein causes a conversion to sugar via gluconeogenesis. This potentially causes muscle to be used as fuel along with higher uric acid and ammonia levels. Not exactly a goal for health. It can also reduce ketone levels to .5mm or below. I acknowledge the absolute depth of ketosis “may” not be the end all be all for fat loss.I am about 215 pounds currently, weight train once a week and walk briskly 30 minutes 3x a week.I have been averaging 80-120g a day in protein and having success losing fat and no strength loss.I see no reason for anyone to base protein grams per "bodyweight". Bodyweight includes FAT, which does not need protein. Lean body mass would be a better guide and even that includes bone etc.CNS advises me to be eating nearly 200g a day. Really? My "guess" is that Kiefer was trying to build a two sizes fit all approach with the +150 and -150 weight groups. I theorize that he went higher on protein to assure satiation from hunger in more people.Can someone point me to the medical studies he would have used to figure protein? As always feel free to chime in.I unintentionally spiked calories, protein and CARBS (100g) last night and hit my highest ketone levels ever at 2.2 mm this morning...so who knows? 45 days on CNS so far, looking long term on goals. I did however do a brisk walk and took 3 MCT tablets, fish oil and coconut oil after realizing I ingested those carbs. Hint: Dry rubbed ribs are rubbed with SUGAR.
you should be just fine with the 80-120g a day given your current activity i would keep it where you have been..
you should be just fine with the 80-120g a day given your current activity i would keep it where you have been..
+1Also CNS doesn't advise a protein amount. It's just that since it is a low carb diet, most people end up consuming a large amount of protein. Kiefer made videos a while back actually advising people to cut protein intake while on CNS.
you should be just fine with the 80-120g a day given your current activity i would keep it where you have been..
+1Also CNS doesn't advise a protein amount. Kiefer made videos a while back actually advising people to cut protein intake while on CNS.
Well, maybe not in formal paragraph form, but CNS does advise on protein. The "suggested meal plans" for 150+ run steadily in the 190-200g of protein and all come in around 2000 kcals a day total.Was his protein reduction video on youtube? I would like to review it again, I vaguely remember hearing him say something about that somewhere.Sidenote: +1 for the lack of hunger and cravings on this program. What a freeing feeling.
you should be just fine with the 80-120g a day given your current activity i would keep it where you have been..
+1Also CNS doesn't advise a protein amount. Kiefer made videos a while back actually advising people to cut protein intake while on CNS.
Well, maybe not in formal paragraph form, but CNS does advise on protein. The "suggested meal plans" for 150+ run steadily in the 190-200g of protein and all come in around 2000 kcals a day total.Was his protein reduction video on youtube? I would like to review it again, I vaguely remember hearing him say something about that somewhere.Sidenote: +1 for the lack of hunger and cravings on this program. What a freeing feeling.
Yes it was a youtube video. Also those meal plans are just examples. There are only 2 requirements for CNS: eat less than 30 g of carbs per day and eat plenty of fat. Meat just happens to be the staple of most people's low carb diets. Hence the high protein.
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