Proteins when carb loading at night for morning workout

[Roadglide]

Coconut, mct oil, butter all fine. Kiefer said at one point too many eggs at once can cause an insulin spike so fat will lessen that chance. Some people say backloads don't have to be low fat but were taught to ingest fat on ulc days so it will keep the chances of an insulin spike down (as far as I understand.) So in my mind it only makes sense to avoid excess fat during backloads so we can spike. I assume that's why kiefer says lean grass fed meat is an ideal source of protein for a backload. Some don't worry about the fat but I watch it.

[Brandon D Christ]

Coconut, mct oil, butter all fine. Kiefer said at one point too many eggs at once can cause an insulin spike so fat will lessen that chance. Some people say backloads don't have to be low fat but were taught to ingest fat on ulc days so it will keep the chances of an insulin spike down (as far as I understand.) So in my mind it only makes sense to avoid excess fat during backloads so we can spike. I assume that's why kiefer says lean grass fed meat is an ideal source of protein for a backload. Some don't worry about the fat but I watch it.

Fat increases insulin release when there are carbohydrates.

[Gnomer]

Coconut, mct oil, butter all fine. Kiefer said at one point too many eggs at once can cause an insulin spike so fat will lessen that chance. Some people say backloads don't have to be low fat but were taught to ingest fat on ulc days so it will keep the chances of an insulin spike down (as far as I understand.) So in my mind it only makes sense to avoid excess fat during backloads so we can spike. I assume that's why kiefer says lean grass fed meat is an ideal source of protein for a backload. Some don't worry about the fat but I watch it.

Fat increases insulin release when there are carbohydrates.

here is one study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6368300shows basically insulin response to glucose was not affected by the presence of fat

[Roadglide]

Then why fat with protein during ulc??

[Gnomer]

Then why fat with protein during ulc??

you need fat for energy on ulc as its your primary source of it

[Gl;itch.e]

Then why fat with protein during ulc??

you need fat for energy on ulc as its your primary source of it

Add to that a heavy protein only meal will spike insulin and drive your stress hormones up in an attempt to regulate blood sugar, and will breakdown the protein (and possibly other body tissues if the energy is needed) to make glucose. In that scenario youd be better off just eating carbs.

[Roadglide]

Ok I stand corrected

[mui chun wah]

Coconut, mct oil, butter all fine. Kiefer said at one point too many eggs at once can cause an insulin spike so fat will lessen that chance. Some people say backloads don't have to be low fat but were taught to ingest fat on ulc days so it will keep the chances of an insulin spike down (as far as I understand.) So in my mind it only makes sense to avoid excess fat during backloads so we can spike. I assume that's why kiefer says lean grass fed meat is an ideal source of protein for a backload. Some don't worry about the fat but I watch it.

Fat increases insulin release when there are carbohydrates.

So when should I have my fat and protein on my backload?  seond or last meal?

[Gl;itch.e]

Coconut, mct oil, butter all fine. Kiefer said at one point too many eggs at once can cause an insulin spike so fat will lessen that chance. Some people say backloads don't have to be low fat but were taught to ingest fat on ulc days so it will keep the chances of an insulin spike down (as far as I understand.) So in my mind it only makes sense to avoid excess fat during backloads so we can spike. I assume that's why kiefer says lean grass fed meat is an ideal source of protein for a backload. Some don't worry about the fat but I watch it.

Fat increases insulin release when there are carbohydrates.

So when should I have my fat and protein on my backload?  seond or last meal?

More so on the last meal but you can have fat in any backloading meal. Its only becoming available as energy after 2-3 hours anyway.

[mui chun wah]

Coconut, mct oil, butter all fine. Kiefer said at one point too many eggs at once can cause an insulin spike so fat will lessen that chance. Some people say backloads don't have to be low fat but were taught to ingest fat on ulc days so it will keep the chances of an insulin spike down (as far as I understand.) So in my mind it only makes sense to avoid excess fat during backloads so we can spike. I assume that's why kiefer says lean grass fed meat is an ideal source of protein for a backload. Some don't worry about the fat but I watch it.

Fat increases insulin release when there are carbohydrates.

So when should I have my fat and protein on my backload?  seond or last meal?

More so on the last meal but you can have fat in any backloading meal. Its only becoming available as energy after 2-3 hours anyway.

Thanks Gl;itch.eif i have only 3hrs to backload. e.g. first meal: pwo with stream white ricean hour later: meat and some fatan hour later my last meal: 2 or 3 donuts and a cup of ice-cream.Would the above be too much in 3 hrs? Thanks in advance.

[Gl;itch.e]

Thanks Gl;itch.eif i have only 3hrs to backload. e.g. first meal: pwo with stream white ricean hour later: meat and some fatan hour later my last meal: 2 or 3 donuts and a cup of ice-cream.Would the above be too much in 3 hrs? Thanks in advance.

Nope. Sounds fine. How many grams of carbs does that work out to be? I backload from 7-10pm and fit down a 50g protein shake and a bag of gummy bears, another 50g shake and a pizza, steak and 1/4 tub of ice cream. Easy 400-500g of carb, 100g fat and about 150-200g protein.

[mui chun wah]

Thanks Gl;itch.eif i have only 3hrs to backload. e.g. first meal: pwo with stream white ricean hour later: meat and some fatan hour later my last meal: 2 or 3 donuts and a cup of ice-cream.Would the above be too much in 3 hrs? Thanks in advance.

Nope. Sounds fine. How many grams of carbs does that work out to be? I backload from 7-10pm and fit down a 50g protein shake and a bag of gummy bears, another 50g shake and a pizza, steak and 1/4 tub of ice cream. Easy 400-500g of carb, 100g fat and about 150-200g protein.

Thanks again Gl;itch.etotal crabs: 200gtotal protein: 100gtotal fat: 70g first meal: pwo shake and white rice - carbs approx 100g and 50g proteinsecond meal: beef or chicken breast with veggies and butter - 50g protein and 30g fatthird meal: donuts and ice-cream - approx 100g carbs and 40g fatbtw, my weight is approx 152 to 155lbs and my target weight is 160 to 165.Best.

[Gl;itch.e]

Thanks Gl;itch.eif i have only 3hrs to backload. e.g. first meal: pwo with stream white ricean hour later: meat and some fatan hour later my last meal: 2 or 3 donuts and a cup of ice-cream.Would the above be too much in 3 hrs? Thanks in advance.

Nope. Sounds fine. How many grams of carbs does that work out to be? I backload from 7-10pm and fit down a 50g protein shake and a bag of gummy bears, another 50g shake and a pizza, steak and 1/4 tub of ice cream. Easy 400-500g of carb, 100g fat and about 150-200g protein.

Thanks again Gl;itch.etotal crabs: 200gtotal protein: 100gtotal fat: 70g first meal: pwo shake and white rice - carbs approx 100g and 50g proteinsecond meal: beef or chicken breast with veggies and butter - 50g protein and 30g fatthird meal: donuts and ice-cream - approx 100g carbs and 40g fatbtw, my weight is approx 152 to 155lbs and my target weight is 160 to 165.Best.

Id try to find a way to have protein and carbs in both of those last meals no matter how close together they are.

[mui chun wah]

Thanks Gl;itch.eif i have only 3hrs to backload. e.g. first meal: pwo with stream white ricean hour later: meat and some fatan hour later my last meal: 2 or 3 donuts and a cup of ice-cream.Would the above be too much in 3 hrs? Thanks in advance.

Nope. Sounds fine. How many grams of carbs does that work out to be? I backload from 7-10pm and fit down a 50g protein shake and a bag of gummy bears, another 50g shake and a pizza, steak and 1/4 tub of ice cream. Easy 400-500g of carb, 100g fat and about 150-200g protein.

Thanks again Gl;itch.etotal crabs: 200gtotal protein: 100gtotal fat: 70g first meal: pwo shake and white rice - carbs approx 100g and 50g proteinsecond meal: beef or chicken breast with veggies and butter - 50g protein and 30g fatthird meal: donuts and ice-cream - approx 100g carbs and 40g fatbtw, my weight is approx 152 to 155lbs and my target weight is 160 to 165.Best.

Id try to find a way to have protein and carbs in both of those last meals no matter how close together they are.

Thanks.so i will add my fourth meal: 20g protein shake (iso whey or casein) with a few bananas or potato.

[Gl;itch.e]

Thanks Gl;itch.eif i have only 3hrs to backload. e.g. first meal: pwo with stream white ricean hour later: meat and some fatan hour later my last meal: 2 or 3 donuts and a cup of ice-cream.Would the above be too much in 3 hrs? Thanks in advance.

Nope. Sounds fine. How many grams of carbs does that work out to be? I backload from 7-10pm and fit down a 50g protein shake and a bag of gummy bears, another 50g shake and a pizza, steak and 1/4 tub of ice cream. Easy 400-500g of carb, 100g fat and about 150-200g protein.

Thanks again Gl;itch.etotal crabs: 200gtotal protein: 100gtotal fat: 70g first meal: pwo shake and white rice - carbs approx 100g and 50g proteinsecond meal: beef or chicken breast with veggies and butter - 50g protein and 30g fatthird meal: donuts and ice-cream - approx 100g carbs and 40g fatbtw, my weight is approx 152 to 155lbs and my target weight is 160 to 165.Best.

Id try to find a way to have protein and carbs in both of those last meals no matter how close together they are.

Thanks.so i will add my fourth meal: 20g protein shake (iso whey or casein) with a few bananas or potato.

I like your spirit to just add more, but why not just gofirst meal: pwo shake and bananas second meal: beef or chicken breast with veggies and butter with white rice (or potatoes)third meal: donuts and ice-cream with Casein shakeeasy.

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