Re-Thinking Calories & Macros for CN

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    Fairy
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    I 1RM when climbing all the time! Don't get how people don't get that…

    #76448

    I 1RM when climbing all the time! Don't get how people don't get that...

    This makes perfect sense.  The PAP program I am running w/ Mike (in my log) could be applied to your climbing to increase your strength instantly.  In fact, the concept was initially tested on athletes, not bodybuilders.Cory

    #76449

    Fairy
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    That sounds like fun Cory 😀 Think I'll have to try it after I'm down to 12%, and when I'm on CBL SA

    #76450

    That sounds like fun Cory 😀 Think I'll have to try it after I'm down to 12%, and when I'm on CBL SA

    Indeed.  😉Cory

    #76451

    Fairy
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    Yeah, I just want to get this clear: When you are hanging by one hand 40 ft up, and part of your brain thinks YOU ARE GOING TO DIE! you do more than 1RM. There is no way anyone can get their body to respond like that in the 'safety' of a gym. I have come down from routes not being able to string a sentence together, shaking and unable to untie myself from my harness. I've never seen that in a gym. *That* is maxing out.And just to clear up another myth: You need serious leg strength when climbing. I can deadlift more than my body weight, but I fail some climbing routes purely due to lack of leg strength!This ain't cardio people!

    #76452

    Yeah, I just want to get this clear: When you are hanging by one hand 40 ft up, and part of your brain thinks YOU ARE GOING TO DIE! you do more than 1RM. There is no way anyone can get their body to respond like that in the 'safety' of a gym. I have come down from routes not being able to string a sentence together, shaking and unable to untie myself from my harness. I've never seen that in a gym. *That* is maxing out.And just to clear up another myth: You need serious leg strength when climbing. I can deadlift more than my body weight, but I fail some climbing routes purely due to lack of leg strength!This ain't cardio people!

    This is true.  Adrenalin is an amazing thing.  It is what allows average mothers to deadlift a car off of their child, if they need to.  It will make you sore as fuck afterwards, though.  Huge expenditure. 🙂Cory

    #76453

    Brandon D Christ
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    Yeah, I just want to get this clear: When you are hanging by one hand 40 ft up, and part of your brain thinks YOU ARE GOING TO DIE! you do more than 1RM. There is no way anyone can get their body to respond like that in the 'safety' of a gym. I have come down from routes not being able to string a sentence together, shaking and unable to untie myself from my harness. I've never seen that in a gym. *That* is maxing out.And just to clear up another myth: You need serious leg strength when climbing. I can deadlift more than my body weight, but I fail some climbing routes purely due to lack of leg strength!This ain't cardio people!

    This is true.  Adrenalin is an amazing thing.  It is what allows average mothers to deadlift a car off of their child, if they need to.  It will make you sore as fuck afterwards, though.  Huge expenditure. 🙂Cory

    Yes, this is essentially what strength training is, developing the ability to tap into that at any moment.

    #76454

    Fairy
    Guest

    That is so true. I think a lot of strength training is really about learning what your body is truly capable of.

    #76455

    That is so true. I think a lot of strength training is really about learning what your body is truly capable of.

    Becoming "super-human", or even a "super-hero" (for some people).Cory

    #76456

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    add “with your fat loss” after “are you happy” and this simple flowchart should answer all your questions.happiness_flowchart.jpg

    #76457

    Fairy
    Guest

    Perfect 🙂 Saving that. Thanks G!

    #76458

    Russell Fulks
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    Fairy,I think there may be some mis-communication regarding the macros.  This post discusses the comment made by Kiefer about fat loss and the macros.http://dangerouslyhardcore.com/forum/index.php?topic=5771.0The important thing to note is that he specifies this for CBL, not specifically for CNS.  BigTex has asked about CNS and if the ratio applies as well.  It *seems* like this would not be applicable to CNS because your caloric intake would just be way too low and that you would kill your metabolism, whereas with CBL you can make up the difference in calories with carbs every backload so your metabolism would stay high.I would hold off on making these drastic changes until Kiefer comes back with an answer on applicability for CNS.  Me personally, I stalled initially with CNS because as a 210lb male with 25% BF, I was only eating 16-1800 calories a day.  After a week of increasing my intake to 150g fat and 150g protein at about 2100 cal per day I started shedding weight at about a pound a week.Just wanted you to be aware of the discussion going on 🙂

    #76459

    Fairy
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    Oh, thank you TRPL. Hmm. It does seem very low! I will read that thread. Thanks again 🙂

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