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April 3, 2013 at 3:37 pm #7763
adammbMemberI am new to CBL and have read over the ebook. There is a list of supplements to take and then also certain shakes to mix up with the supplements. Some of the supplements are straight forward and some of them are a bit confusing and I would like help with clarification. Here is the list as I see it that need purchasedOmega-3 Pretty straight forwardCaffeine Pretty straight forwardWhey isolate I don't see a problem in selecting my flavor of choice on this. Maybe there is something I should know. I usually use Optimum Nutrition but will get the pure formHigh GI carb The ebook gives 3 choices here. I would assume choose one of your liking.Casein(intact) I use ON right now. Should I buy something else?Hydrolysate ebook warns of taste on this. recommendations? I would hate to choke down a disgusting shake with my high carb meals.Leucine I see leucine, l-leucine, and l-isoleucine. Not sure what to buy. ebook states up to 40g a day in this and it seems to be sold at 100g which will be gone in less than 3 days. What am I missing and what form should I use?Creatine Mono seems to be the preferred choice for this. Seems pretty straight forwardMaybe I am missing something else too. Your wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
April 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm #177020
PolishBe@STParticipantOn one of the podcasts Kiefer said to take Leucine post workout and you dont need more than 5g. On your backloading meals you can take5g with each carb meal to drive the insulin spike even higher
April 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm #177021
maxwkwMemberAs far as the casein hydrolysate, I'd get it from truenutrition.com I have tried both chocolate and cake batter flavors. Chocolate was decent. Make sure to get double flavor. For Leucine I'd go to the same place and just get l-Leucine powder. Isoleucine is actually a different amino acid.
April 20, 2013 at 7:55 pm #177026
JBurchMemberAs far as the casein hydrolysate, I'd get it from truenutrition.com I have tried both chocolate and cake batter flavors. Chocolate was decent. Make sure to get double flavor. For Leucine I'd go to the same place and just get l-Leucine powder. Isoleucine is actually a different amino acid.
I just checked out truenutrition.com and the l-Leucine powder comes in heat-sealed foil pouches. What do you put it in once you open the pouch up? Same goes for the creatine...
April 20, 2013 at 8:11 pm #177027
Richard SchmittModeratorAny extra containers you have laying around or order a tub once and then future orders have the seal
April 20, 2013 at 9:27 pm #177028
Peter HuntParticipantBe warned though that leucine tastes pretty grim. I find it's best to take it on its own with water and then make the shake with the rest of the ingredients, as even hydrolysate is bearable compared to leucine, and doesn't ruin the taste of the whole thing.
April 20, 2013 at 10:47 pm #177023
JBurchMemberBe warned though that leucine tastes pretty grim. I find it's best to take it on its own with water and then make the shake with the rest of the ingredients, as even hydrolysate is bearable compared to leucine, and doesn't ruin the taste of the whole thing.
Just so I know, because the more I research the more ignorant I feel....... I have optimum nutrition gold standard whey protein and casein. Here comes the stupid question!!! Those are both a hydrolysate correct? This studing nutrition hours on end is twisting my thoughts.
April 21, 2013 at 12:17 am #177022
GonnaBeGiantMemberNo, they are not hydro isolates. The gold standard is a concentrate and the casein is a slow digesting protein.
April 21, 2013 at 12:38 am #177024
JBurchMemberNo, they are not hydro isolates. The gold standard is a concentrate and the casein is a slow digesting protein.
Ok, so I the wrong stuff for this diet. So I need to find a hydro isolate. Fun times /cry
April 21, 2013 at 1:54 am #177025
GonnaBeGiantMemberJust add leucine to the concentrate PWO and you'll be fine. Take the casein before bed!
April 21, 2013 at 3:33 am #177029
JBurchMemberJust add leucine to the concentrate PWO and you'll be fine. Take the casein before bed!
Do you think I should take the casein with fat or do you think it will be ok without fat?
April 21, 2013 at 3:42 am #177030
GonnaBeGiantMemberWhen I take casein at night I would add a tbsp of grass-fed butter, although it's probably not needed. I did just in case!
April 21, 2013 at 6:37 pm #177031
JBurchMemberWhen I take casein at night I would add a tbsp of grass-fed butter, although it's probably not needed. I did just in case!
The more I read the more I find everyone saying to eat the grass-fed butter over virgin coconut oil. I keep searching online to find out why but I keep coming up empty handed. When you look at the two what is your deciding factor in eating the butter over the coconut oil? Thanks in advance!
April 21, 2013 at 6:39 pm #177032
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorWhen I take casein at night I would add a tbsp of grass-fed butter, although it's probably not needed. I did just in case!
The more I read the more I find everyone saying to eat the grass-fed butter over virgin coconut oil. I keep searching online to find out why but I keep coming up empty handed. When you look at the two what is your deciding factor in eating the butter over the coconut oil? Thanks in advance!
Coconut oil works just fine, butter just tastes better and dairy fat has lots of health benefits.Coconut oil is great to use, it gives an interesting flavor and can give you some quick energy. Just use whichever you'd prefer.
April 24, 2013 at 5:27 am #177033
estepeltonGuestBack to OP question, does anyone have specific recommendations of exactly what to buy? I've looked around true nutrition, but there's a ton of stuff on there. For now I'm just plowing thru my ON gold standard whey.
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