Retaining water

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  • #220937

    Brian M Eckstrom
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    nothing to support this, but I actually feel like I hold more water and look more “blurry” if I'm NOT drinking a ton of water. I try to stay around 2gal every day, anything lower and it seems like it retains. its almost like the water is flushing out the held water or something.Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

    #220938

    TCB
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    nothing to support this, but I actually feel like I hold more water and look more "blurry" if I'm NOT drinking a ton of water. I try to stay around 2gal every day, anything lower and it seems like it retains. its almost like the water is flushing out the held water or something.Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

    You pee a lot?At that quantity of water you're basically in the "hyperhydration" idea that some weight class sports use to cut weight. Basically, by way overconsuming water, your body begins allostasis to keep you safe, and upregulates the amount of water it dumps out. Try going a day without water and see if you lose like 5-8 lbs, ha

    #220939

    Brian M Eckstrom
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    nothing to support this, but I actually feel like I hold more water and look more "blurry" if I'm NOT drinking a ton of water. I try to stay around 2gal every day, anything lower and it seems like it retains. its almost like the water is flushing out the held water or something.Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

    You pee a lot?At that quantity of water you're basically in the "hyperhydration" idea that some weight class sports use to cut weight. Basically, by way overconsuming water, your body begins allostasis to keep you safe, and upregulates the amount of water it dumps out. Try going a day without water and see if you lose like 5-8 lbs, ha

    constantly. I'll try that and see what happens. Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

    #220940

    Brandon D Christ
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    Why are you drinking 2 gallons every day?  That is not very good for your mineral balance.  Not to mention pretty damn inpractical

    #220941

    Brian M Eckstrom
    Participant

    Why are you drinking 2 gallons every day?  That is not very good for your mineral balance.  Not to mention pretty damn inpractical

    I may have misspoken. I just keep a litre bottle with me at work and I'm constantly filling and drinking it. maybe 8 refills? I just feel dehydrated/thirsty if I'm not drinking throughout the day. Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

    #220942

    Brandon D Christ
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    Why are you drinking 2 gallons every day?  That is not very good for your mineral balance.  Not to mention pretty damn inpractical

    I may have misspoken. I just keep a litre bottle with me at work and I'm constantly filling and drinking it. maybe 8 refills? I just feel dehydrated/thirsty if I'm not drinking throughout the day. Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk

    You may have just trained your thirst signals to operate this way.  I'm not sure how necessary it is for you to cut back, but I would cut down to around .75-1 gallon per day.  Unless you are extremely active or work in hot weather you shouldn't need more water than that.

    #220943

    Chuck
    Member

    Just some bro science. But I take psyllium husk fiber when I’m feeling bloated. It tends to dry me out quicker.

    #220944

    KARLITO
    Member

    2 gallons is a lot of water 😮 What about your sodium intake? How much do you consume per day?

    #220945

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    as ibob and everyone is pointing out its a fluid/electrolyte balance that is at the root of this. 1. increase sodium/decrease aldosterone2. decrease water intakesolved. as a side benefit increased sodium is linked to less insulin resistance! another way that current health recommendations are making people worse off.

    Dietary salt restriction, which increases aldosterone levels, is also associated with an increase in insulin resistance.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22499218

    #220946

    KARLITO
    Member

    From Scott Abel article:"Aldosterone HormoneIn a normal metabolic situation electrolyte balance is delicately maintained by urinary output. The kidneys regulate the concentration of plasma electrolytes of sodium, potassium, and calcium by matching almost exactly the amounts ingested to the amounts excreted. The final amounts of sodium and potassium excreted in the urine are regulated by the needs of the body. Problems for athletes begin when they needlessly start eliminating sodium while at the same time their bodies are regularly losing too much of it through sweat and cellular activity. This produces the negative stress response of the release of the hormone aldosterone. Normally people have low levels of circulating aldosterone. It is a hormone released in response to metabolic or physiological stress.The release of this hormone serves several functions. The main effect of aldosterone secretion is a reabsorption of sodium through the distal tubules of the kidneys. Thus sodium that normally would have left the body is retained because of the presence of this hormone.Normally individuals can excrete a huge 30 grams of sodium daily when aldosterone is not present. Yes that's 30,000 mg! This is an average person, not a hard-training athlete. When aldosterone is present there is absolutely no sodium in the urine at all, none. Why is this a problem?Well, water always follows sodium because sodium is positively charged while water is negatively charged. Therefore, the more sodium excreted, the more water leaves the body. But since, in the presence of aldosterone, sodium is reabsorbed and kept in the body, and water follows sodium, water too is not excreted. The result is water retention. Therefore a physique may be lean from months of dieting but look soft and not lean because of sodium avoidance and therefore water retention, mild to severe. But even mild retention as you know can be enough to destroy an otherwise stage ready physique!! "Glitche, do you look carefully to your sodium/potassium intake?

    #220947

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    From Scott Abel article:"Aldosterone HormoneIn a normal metabolic situation electrolyte balance is delicately maintained by urinary output. The kidneys regulate the concentration of plasma electrolytes of sodium, potassium, and calcium by matching almost exactly the amounts ingested to the amounts excreted. The final amounts of sodium and potassium excreted in the urine are regulated by the needs of the body. Problems for athletes begin when they needlessly start eliminating sodium while at the same time their bodies are regularly losing too much of it through sweat and cellular activity. This produces the negative stress response of the release of the hormone aldosterone. Normally people have low levels of circulating aldosterone. It is a hormone released in response to metabolic or physiological stress.The release of this hormone serves several functions. The main effect of aldosterone secretion is a reabsorption of sodium through the distal tubules of the kidneys. Thus sodium that normally would have left the body is retained because of the presence of this hormone.Normally individuals can excrete a huge 30 grams of sodium daily when aldosterone is not present. Yes that's 30,000 mg! This is an average person, not a hard-training athlete. When aldosterone is present there is absolutely no sodium in the urine at all, none. Why is this a problem?Well, water always follows sodium because sodium is positively charged while water is negatively charged. Therefore, the more sodium excreted, the more water leaves the body. But since, in the presence of aldosterone, sodium is reabsorbed and kept in the body, and water follows sodium, water too is not excreted. The result is water retention. Therefore a physique may be lean from months of dieting but look soft and not lean because of sodium avoidance and therefore water retention, mild to severe. But even mild retention as you know can be enough to destroy an otherwise stage ready physique!! "Glitche, do you look carefully to your sodium/potassium intake?

    I wouldn't say I'm that careful. All I do is avoid excess water consumption and make sure to salt everything that is hypotonic. All my coffee's, workout drinks get some extra sodium. I eat a bit of fruit these days so I get more potassium than the average low carb/paleo type.

    #220948

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    From Scott Abel article:"Aldosterone HormoneIn a normal metabolic situation electrolyte balance is delicately maintained by urinary output. The kidneys regulate the concentration of plasma electrolytes of sodium, potassium, and calcium by matching almost exactly the amounts ingested to the amounts excreted. The final amounts of sodium and potassium excreted in the urine are regulated by the needs of the body. Problems for athletes begin when they needlessly start eliminating sodium while at the same time their bodies are regularly losing too much of it through sweat and cellular activity. This produces the negative stress response of the release of the hormone aldosterone. Normally people have low levels of circulating aldosterone. It is a hormone released in response to metabolic or physiological stress.The release of this hormone serves several functions. The main effect of aldosterone secretion is a reabsorption of sodium through the distal tubules of the kidneys. Thus sodium that normally would have left the body is retained because of the presence of this hormone.Normally individuals can excrete a huge 30 grams of sodium daily when aldosterone is not present. Yes that's 30,000 mg! This is an average person, not a hard-training athlete. When aldosterone is present there is absolutely no sodium in the urine at all, none. Why is this a problem?Well, water always follows sodium because sodium is positively charged while water is negatively charged. Therefore, the more sodium excreted, the more water leaves the body. But since, in the presence of aldosterone, sodium is reabsorbed and kept in the body, and water follows sodium, water too is not excreted. The result is water retention. Therefore a physique may be lean from months of dieting but look soft and not lean because of sodium avoidance and therefore water retention, mild to severe. But even mild retention as you know can be enough to destroy an otherwise stage ready physique!! "Glitche, do you look carefully to your sodium/potassium intake?

    I wouldn't say I'm that careful. All I do is avoid excess water consumption and make sure to salt everything that is hypotonic. All my coffee's, workout drinks get some extra sodium. I eat a bit of fruit these days so I get more potassium than the average low carb/paleo type.

    Potatoes are actually higher in potassium than most fruits.  Milk has a good amount as well.  Those are my primary sources.

    #220949

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    From Scott Abel article:"Aldosterone HormoneIn a normal metabolic situation electrolyte balance is delicately maintained by urinary output. The kidneys regulate the concentration of plasma electrolytes of sodium, potassium, and calcium by matching almost exactly the amounts ingested to the amounts excreted. The final amounts of sodium and potassium excreted in the urine are regulated by the needs of the body. Problems for athletes begin when they needlessly start eliminating sodium while at the same time their bodies are regularly losing too much of it through sweat and cellular activity. This produces the negative stress response of the release of the hormone aldosterone. Normally people have low levels of circulating aldosterone. It is a hormone released in response to metabolic or physiological stress.The release of this hormone serves several functions. The main effect of aldosterone secretion is a reabsorption of sodium through the distal tubules of the kidneys. Thus sodium that normally would have left the body is retained because of the presence of this hormone.Normally individuals can excrete a huge 30 grams of sodium daily when aldosterone is not present. Yes that's 30,000 mg! This is an average person, not a hard-training athlete. When aldosterone is present there is absolutely no sodium in the urine at all, none. Why is this a problem?Well, water always follows sodium because sodium is positively charged while water is negatively charged. Therefore, the more sodium excreted, the more water leaves the body. But since, in the presence of aldosterone, sodium is reabsorbed and kept in the body, and water follows sodium, water too is not excreted. The result is water retention. Therefore a physique may be lean from months of dieting but look soft and not lean because of sodium avoidance and therefore water retention, mild to severe. But even mild retention as you know can be enough to destroy an otherwise stage ready physique!! "Glitche, do you look carefully to your sodium/potassium intake?

    I wouldn't say I'm that careful. All I do is avoid excess water consumption and make sure to salt everything that is hypotonic. All my coffee's, workout drinks get some extra sodium. I eat a bit of fruit these days so I get more potassium than the average low carb/paleo type.

    Potatoes are actually higher in potassium than most fruits.  Milk has a good amount as well.  Those are my primary sources.

    Yeah both those are good foods. I drink a fair amount of milk, more for the calcium though. I can't imagine that most of us here eat that many potatoes regularly though.

    #220950

    Gnomer
    Participant

    Yeah both those are good foods. I drink a fair amount of milk, more for the calcium though. I can't imagine that most of us here eat that many potatoes regularly though.

    I do:)

    #220951

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    Yeah both those are good foods. I drink a fair amount of milk, more for the calcium though. I can't imagine that most of us here eat that many potatoes regularly though.

    I do:)

    typical sano! how much you eating bra?

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