Robb Wolf on low carb

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  • #6076

    d3spwn
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    Robb Wolf has been writing a series of articles on low carb diets and it's effects on health and athletic performance. The latest (see link below) contained this little tidbit: “If you are a strength athlete, I think CLC (Cyclic Low Carb) is the bee’s knees.”. http://robbwolf.com/2013/01/09/thoughts-carb-paleo-episode-3-hope/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RobbWolfThePaleoSolution+%28Robb+Wolf+%7C+The+Paleo+Solution+book+and+podcast+%7C+Paleolithic+nutrition%2C+intermittent+fasting%2C+and+fitness%29

    #131388

    mwachtel
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    Insulin resistance being protective mechanism. Sounds like Kiefer's theory that type II diabetes is actually the bodies way of not allowing you to get any fatter. Until we created Metformin….

    #131389

    mwachtel
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    Actually alot of the stuff Rob talks about (besides the ketosis perhaps not being a “default” human state) Ive heard Kiefer talk about on the podcasts.

    #131390

    Sveta1017
    Member

    Thats VERY interesting.  Especially this statement, “CrossFit or very hard training while LC or ketogenic. Crossfit burns through glycogen like nothing else I can imagine. If you are going to do it, you need carbs, quite a few of them. If you are trying to be competitive I’d get at least 1.5-2.5g/lb of BW most days.” I do CrossFit style training 2-3 times a week and the other 3 days I do purely strength. As the week progresses and gets further and further away from my CN I find I have difficulty finishing a WOD (workout of the day) and have absolutely NO energy. However, it was after those types of workouts that I tended to lose the most weight doing CNS. I know he says that is the "bees knees" for strength training so I guess I'll have to see how the two fit in together. I hope that we don't have to worry about adrenal failure...since we ARE eating carbs, right? Just once a week!

    #131391

    mwachtel
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    Thats VERY interesting.  Especially this statement, "CrossFit or very hard training while LC or ketogenic. Crossfit burns through glycogen like nothing else I can imagine. If you are going to do it, you need carbs, quite a few of them. If you are trying to be competitive I’d get at least 1.5-2.5g/lb of BW most days." I do CrossFit style training 2-3 times a week and the other 3 days I do purely strength. As the week progresses and gets further and further away from my CN I find I have difficulty finishing a WOD (workout of the day) and have absolutely NO energy. However, it was after those types of workouts that I tended to lose the most weight doing CNS. I know he says that is the "bees knees" for strength training so I guess I'll have to see how the two fit in together. I hope that we don't have to worry about adrenal failure...since we ARE eating carbs, right? Just once a week!

    Something like crossfit requires alot of glycogen. Which depending on the day is not consistently around when doing CNS. When Glycogen depleted, doing a glycogen deplete workouts is not conducive to performance or aesthetics.I would read Kiefer's article concerning crossfit (warning: he hates it), or at least the way some crossfitters train.

    #131392

    Sveta1017
    Member

    Thats VERY interesting.  Especially this statement, "CrossFit or very hard training while LC or ketogenic. Crossfit burns through glycogen like nothing else I can imagine. If you are going to do it, you need carbs, quite a few of them. If you are trying to be competitive I’d get at least 1.5-2.5g/lb of BW most days." I do CrossFit style training 2-3 times a week and the other 3 days I do purely strength. As the week progresses and gets further and further away from my CN I find I have difficulty finishing a WOD (workout of the day) and have absolutely NO energy. However, it was after those types of workouts that I tended to lose the most weight doing CNS. I know he says that is the "bees knees" for strength training so I guess I'll have to see how the two fit in together. I hope that we don't have to worry about adrenal failure...since we ARE eating carbs, right? Just once a week!

    Something like crossfit requires alot of glycogen. Which depending on the day is not consistently around when doing CNS. When Glycogen depleted, doing a glycogen deplete workouts is not conducive to performance or aesthetics.I would read Kiefer's article concerning crossfit (warning: he hates it), or at least the way some crossfitters train.

    I know how he feels about it. I don't do typical crossfit...I do something worse--which is the NAVY/Marine Corps trainer's version of it. Meaning, most of the workouts are long 30-40minutes. I find that I feel okay doing these workouts in the beginning of the week but by the end I'm pretty haggard. I also read that he said CrossFit can be really good for women because they have a hard time depleting their glycogen...so I guess I'll just pray for the best!

    #131393

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Yep, gotta remember he agrees and supports Kiefer's methods for CNS and CBL. So it's no surprise he's using it too.

    #131394

    mwachtel
    Participant

    Thats VERY interesting.  Especially this statement, "CrossFit or very hard training while LC or ketogenic. Crossfit burns through glycogen like nothing else I can imagine. If you are going to do it, you need carbs, quite a few of them. If you are trying to be competitive I’d get at least 1.5-2.5g/lb of BW most days." I do CrossFit style training 2-3 times a week and the other 3 days I do purely strength. As the week progresses and gets further and further away from my CN I find I have difficulty finishing a WOD (workout of the day) and have absolutely NO energy. However, it was after those types of workouts that I tended to lose the most weight doing CNS. I know he says that is the "bees knees" for strength training so I guess I'll have to see how the two fit in together. I hope that we don't have to worry about adrenal failure...since we ARE eating carbs, right? Just once a week!

    Something like crossfit requires alot of glycogen. Which depending on the day is not consistently around when doing CNS. When Glycogen depleted, doing a glycogen deplete workouts is not conducive to performance or aesthetics.I would read Kiefer's article concerning crossfit (warning: he hates it), or at least the way some crossfitters train.

    I know how he feels about it. I don't do typical crossfit...I do something worse--which is the NAVY/Marine Corps trainer's version of it. Meaning, most of the workouts are long 30-40minutes. I find that I feel okay doing these workouts in the beginning of the week but by the end I'm pretty haggard. I also read that he said CrossFit can be really good for women because they have a hard time depleting their glycogen...so I guess I'll just pray for the best!

    Yes, he did say that about women, but those women probably aren't doing CNS...they are probably eating carbs consistently all week.

    #131395

    Sveta1017
    Member

    Thats VERY interesting.  Especially this statement, "CrossFit or very hard training while LC or ketogenic. Crossfit burns through glycogen like nothing else I can imagine. If you are going to do it, you need carbs, quite a few of them. If you are trying to be competitive I’d get at least 1.5-2.5g/lb of BW most days." I do CrossFit style training 2-3 times a week and the other 3 days I do purely strength. As the week progresses and gets further and further away from my CN I find I have difficulty finishing a WOD (workout of the day) and have absolutely NO energy. However, it was after those types of workouts that I tended to lose the most weight doing CNS. I know he says that is the "bees knees" for strength training so I guess I'll have to see how the two fit in together. I hope that we don't have to worry about adrenal failure...since we ARE eating carbs, right? Just once a week!

    Something like crossfit requires alot of glycogen. Which depending on the day is not consistently around when doing CNS. When Glycogen depleted, doing a glycogen deplete workouts is not conducive to performance or aesthetics.I would read Kiefer's article concerning crossfit (warning: he hates it), or at least the way some crossfitters train.

    I know how he feels about it. I don't do typical crossfit...I do something worse--which is the NAVY/Marine Corps trainer's version of it. Meaning, most of the workouts are long 30-40minutes. I find that I feel okay doing these workouts in the beginning of the week but by the end I'm pretty haggard. I also read that he said CrossFit can be really good for women because they have a hard time depleting their glycogen...so I guess I'll just pray for the best!

    Yes, he did say that about women, but those women probably aren't doing CNS...they are probably eating carbs consistently all week.

    I dunno, Kiefer specifically talked about it in a biojacked podcast specifically talking about CNS...

    #131396

    mwachtel
    Participant

    Thats VERY interesting.  Especially this statement, "CrossFit or very hard training while LC or ketogenic. Crossfit burns through glycogen like nothing else I can imagine. If you are going to do it, you need carbs, quite a few of them. If you are trying to be competitive I’d get at least 1.5-2.5g/lb of BW most days." I do CrossFit style training 2-3 times a week and the other 3 days I do purely strength. As the week progresses and gets further and further away from my CN I find I have difficulty finishing a WOD (workout of the day) and have absolutely NO energy. However, it was after those types of workouts that I tended to lose the most weight doing CNS. I know he says that is the "bees knees" for strength training so I guess I'll have to see how the two fit in together. I hope that we don't have to worry about adrenal failure...since we ARE eating carbs, right? Just once a week!

    Something like crossfit requires alot of glycogen. Which depending on the day is not consistently around when doing CNS. When Glycogen depleted, doing a glycogen deplete workouts is not conducive to performance or aesthetics.I would read Kiefer's article concerning crossfit (warning: he hates it), or at least the way some crossfitters train.

    I know how he feels about it. I don't do typical crossfit...I do something worse--which is the NAVY/Marine Corps trainer's version of it. Meaning, most of the workouts are long 30-40minutes. I find that I feel okay doing these workouts in the beginning of the week but by the end I'm pretty haggard. I also read that he said CrossFit can be really good for women because they have a hard time depleting their glycogen...so I guess I'll just pray for the best!

    Yes, he did say that about women, but those women probably aren't doing CNS...they are probably eating carbs consistently all week.

    I dunno, Kiefer specifically talked about it in a biojacked podcast specifically talking about CNS...

    Actually I think he was talking about CBL at that point, could be wrong though. Regardless, I dont think traditional crossfitting workouts "WODs" are too optimal while doing CNS.

    #131397

    Thats VERY interesting.  Especially this statement, "CrossFit or very hard training while LC or ketogenic. Crossfit burns through glycogen like nothing else I can imagine. If you are going to do it, you need carbs, quite a few of them. If you are trying to be competitive I’d get at least 1.5-2.5g/lb of BW most days." I do CrossFit style training 2-3 times a week and the other 3 days I do purely strength. As the week progresses and gets further and further away from my CN I find I have difficulty finishing a WOD (workout of the day) and have absolutely NO energy. However, it was after those types of workouts that I tended to lose the most weight doing CNS. I know he says that is the "bees knees" for strength training so I guess I'll have to see how the two fit in together. I hope that we don't have to worry about adrenal failure...since we ARE eating carbs, right? Just once a week!

    Something like crossfit requires alot of glycogen. Which depending on the day is not consistently around when doing CNS. When Glycogen depleted, doing a glycogen deplete workouts is not conducive to performance or aesthetics.I would read Kiefer's article concerning crossfit (warning: he hates it), or at least the way some crossfitters train.

    I know how he feels about it. I don't do typical crossfit...I do something worse--which is the NAVY/Marine Corps trainer's version of it. Meaning, most of the workouts are long 30-40minutes. I find that I feel okay doing these workouts in the beginning of the week but by the end I'm pretty haggard. I also read that he said CrossFit can be really good for women because they have a hard time depleting their glycogen...so I guess I'll just pray for the best!

    Yes, he did say that about women, but those women probably aren't doing CNS...they are probably eating carbs consistently all week.

    I dunno, Kiefer specifically talked about it in a biojacked podcast specifically talking about CNS...

    Actually I think he was talking about CBL at that point, could be wrong though. Regardless, I dont think traditional crossfitting workouts "WODs" are too optimal while doing CNS.

    Women can use them very well providing they don't over do it. Just do enough to deplete your glycogen, at that point don't keep trying to force it.

    #131398

    Fairy
    Guest

    I don't think traditional Crossfit is ever optimal . . . However, for women needing to burn off glycogen in the first three days following a CN high volume, heavy resistance training works well.

    #131399

    mwachtel
    Participant

    I don't think traditional Crossfit is ever optimal . . . However, for women needing to burn off glycogen in the first three days following a CN high volume, heavy resistance training works well.

    Good point Fairy. That may be the more important point.

    #131400

    Sveta1017
    Member

    Haters! 😉

    #131401

    mwachtel
    Participant

    Haters! 😉

    Lol, sry.

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