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    Surfer
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    I've been on CNS for a couple of weeks now and I've been drinking Pepsi Max as I usually do – about 1-2 cans a day. But now I've just read a couple of threads about Ace-K (which is the same as the acesulfame potassium in Pepsi Max, right?) and now I wonder if I've screwed everything up and need to do the prep phase again?! 🙁Thanks

    #91483

    Jas0n
    Guest

    You said you've been on CNS for a couple of weeks – I would only redo the prep phase if you feel that you aren't losing weight as fast as you'd expect/at all.Jason.

    #91484

    AciD
    Member

    As long as there is no stall, I wouldn't bother with Ace-K.Even Kiefer said it.

    #91485

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    You're good! No worries. If you do begin to stall, like not weight or fat loss cut those drinks out and keep diet in check.

    #91486

    Surfer
    Guest

    Phew, that is such a relief! hahaI had to re-do the prep phase once already, but I'm already seeing results. So I'll stick to the Max until that changes. Keeps me sane when the cravings get too bad! 😉Thanks for the help guys 🙂

    #91487

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Unless you completely go off the grid, that's only time you'll need the full yen days other than that maybe just 7 is good.

    #91488

    Surfer
    Guest

    Yea right, 'cus I've been wondering – obviously if you completely spazz out and have like 3 CN's in a row you have to start over, but what happens if you go over your carb limit just a little bit one day? Like say you have 40-50 grams of carbs? And is there a limit to how many times you can "re-start"?

    #91489

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Won't be too bad to go over 30g every now and then but everyday. A limit? I wouldn't make it a habit to try and mess up

    #91490

    Surfer
    Guest

    Haha, well I'm not planning to 😛 But I know from experience that it happens sometimes..

    #91491

    Cropsy
    Member

    This reminded me that I've been wondering why 30g per day is the magic number? I know there must be a specific reason but I can't say I've ever seen it. It also seems funny to me that this 30g is recommended for everyone, whether you're a 120 lb woman or a 240 lb man. Also, the 10g per meal limit?

    #91492

    Surfer
    Guest

    This reminded me that I've been wondering why 30g per day is the magic number? I know there must be a specific reason but I can't say I've ever seen it. It also seems funny to me that this 30g is recommended for everyone, whether you're a 120 lb woman or a 240 lb man. Also, the 10g per meal limit?

    I've been wondering that as well... Also, I've read that if you have done the full 10-day prep phase once then it's okay to do the next one (if you mess up) for a shorter period of time - why is that?

    #91493

    stever
    Member

    The 30 gram recommendation is straight out of Lyle McDonald's Ketogenic Diet – another very well-researched book. Here's the crux of it, at page 104, but this point comes up a few times throughout the research cited.One of the most interesting things about the book is that, although he was a great proponent of a ketogenic diet, he drew no conclusions as to its seemingly fantastic nature within. ie. there was no special advantage to one, a calorie was still a calorie (after you take into account the inefficiency of the mechanisms & the thermic effect of food). I think a lot of the confusion in this regard came from the research stating that where individuals could eat an unlimited amount of fat & protein whilst carbohydrates were off limits, they would automatically eat in the 1400-2400 calorie range and be satisfied... Not that they could eat whatever and get away with it. Woops bit of a side-track there, sorry

    #91494

    Cropsy
    Member

    Hi Stever. Thanks for that info. I suppose that makes sense. But what about the 10g per meal limit? Any ideas?

    #91495

    stever
    Member

    from memory, 10 grams is where you start seeing a decent enough insulin response to bump you out of ketosis

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