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December 19, 2011 at 10:11 pm #249
ChuckMemberJust picked up this month's issue of M&F and seen the Protocol designed by Keifer himself. Would like to know what exercises are acceptable for the Protocol as to alleviate Central Nervous System (CNS) and grow strict muscle. Thanks as soon as I here a few exercise, I can distinguish between CNS breakdown and muscle break down.
December 21, 2011 at 4:44 pm #15079
masZULParticipantNot sure I'm reading this correctly… you want to know how to get muscle growth without taxing your CNS? i don't think you can do one without the other(or it's not known yet if there is a way). The article is already trying to diminish the impact on your CNS, if they knew of an even better way a issume they probably would've printed that instead. As is just take a few days off of lifting occasionally, that should allow your CNS to rebound a bit.
December 22, 2011 at 10:32 pm #15080
sckielyParticipantUnless i am mistaken, the CNS shouldn't ever “Breakdown” it might be taxed and depleted of nutrients to best fire which is why we slow down or lose strength as a workout progresses! But the goal of training is to make the CNS more able to deal with higher loads, which is why progressive overload works so well, not only do muscles breakdown and rebuild bigger/ Stronger but to accompany this the CNS has to develop more branches to make these muscle fibres fire better!So all training is CNS training regardless of goal! Thats why shockwave works so well, you do not have to use maximal loads to work the muscles or CNS you just have to create force! So sub maximal loads will move faster, creating similar force to the last big set of 3 with a heaviest weight! This weight should not be able to be moved as fast, but the aim should be "Trying" to move it at the same speed as the previous sets!Do not try to separate CNS and muscle development, as they are crucial sides of the same coin!
December 23, 2011 at 3:00 am #15081
Richard SchmittModeratorI can tell you though these exercises do make muscle grow along with CBL. I've been doing the Shockwave Protocol for about 2-3 weeks now, and my strength has improved, and my mass has grown in all areas. This is great for adding mass/strength.
April 7, 2012 at 1:37 pm #15082
AciDMemberWhat is "one arm 1/2 dumbbell upright row"I mean - what the 1/2 stands for?
April 7, 2012 at 1:46 pm #15083
Richard SchmittModeratorI wish I had a picture to help…but instead of pulling all the way up like a normal upright row you stop mid way. Still working shoulders, but feeling it in the lats as well. Wait found, and editted to show you. The line indicates where to stop and begin again.
April 7, 2012 at 6:44 pm #15084
Damon AmatoParticipantgood picture, just to clarify, it's a one arm movement though.
April 13, 2012 at 12:03 pm #15085
AciDMemberhigh-wide pulley rowsCan't find this one anywhere.Help?:D
April 13, 2012 at 12:06 pm #15086
IOWA.PharmDMemberhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d32eT8LipcThis is what I did when I used shockwave. "Facepulls"Not a 100% that's what it is though.
April 13, 2012 at 12:08 pm #15087
AciDMemberBut do you have any idea how this high-wide pulley rows should look like?From what I found it looks just like pulldowns, so I'm a bit confused.
April 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm #15088
IOWA.PharmDMemberDid you look at the video?You should be pulling the handing towards your face keeping your arms as wide as possible. You'll have to start with light weight to get your balance right or lean back just a hair.
April 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm #15089
AciDMemberDid you look at the video?You should be pulling the handing towards your face keeping your arms as wide as possible. You'll have to start with light weight to get your balance right or lean back just a hair.
Yes, but you posted a different exercise, I am asking about the exercise that I asked about in my first post, that is mentioned in the Shockwave.
April 13, 2012 at 12:15 pm #15090
IOWA.PharmDMemberThe high wide pulley rows? Same exercise, different name. I think he listed exercises as not their common name so people who don't lift that much still have an idea what to do based on the lengthy exercise name. High-wide pulley rows = face pulls.
April 13, 2012 at 12:20 pm #15091
AciDMemberOkay, man, thank you!
May 4, 2012 at 10:08 pm #15092
MeniGuestI wish I had a picture to help...but instead of pulling all the way up like a normal upright row you stop mid way. Still working shoulders, but feeling it in the lats as well. Wait found, and editted to show you. The line indicates where to stop and begin again.
Yup close grip upright row all the way up, trouble for shoulders
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