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The thing is, depending on levels of leanness, Skip's protocol will very much resemble the CNS. I can speak to it because he had me doing it; although I wasn't as low as <30g during the ULC phase, I did get down around 50. Then, on the 7th day I Skiploaded, is very much like CN. There are MANY similarities, but I doubt either would admit it.
I agree, the only blaring difference is the skipload is RECCOMENDED in the morning and on an off day. And he also skip loads in the off season just for shorter time frames usually
Good call. Rest day, first thing in the morning.
I really wish I could try the rest day thing, but that's not possible with my training schedule. To me a rest day is working out once only during the day. Still, now that I think about it, I understand the importance of one large carb/calorie spike during the week if you are undereating for 6 days, ULC or not. Even if I do have a bit of carbs during the week I will definitely make sure to have one day of unrestricted, balls-out carbing up. For example, even if you are on vacation and eating out a couple times a week, having a bit of carbs with dinner, that is not enough to sustain performance and keep an ideal hormonal profile cause you are likely still undereating and not fully replenishing glycogen stores anyways.
I think it would be interesting to get Skip and Keifer in a room together. My guess is they would agree on more than we think, just like when Keifer got pissed off with Robb Wolf because they agreed too much LOL. In any case, of course Skip or Keifer is going to espouse their own methods over those of others, they are in a pretty competitive field. As Keifer would say "I spent two years writing a book, of course I am going to market it." If you say "well this guy might have a good idea here" then you risk losing a chunk of your client base, and that isn't great for business. I just know that this forum is a lot like other forums. It has knowledgeable people, dumbasses, jerks, flamboyant and outspoken guys and girls, blunt people, flowery people, athletes, models, etc etc. At the end of the day, I know that it feels to me a lot like a family, and the people here are just as motivating to me as the diet and training. Of course I am not saying you are opposing any of that, Josh! Just making a statement that I really do love the people of this forum, because we are a family. A weird, fucked up, indulgent, crazy, wonderful family. I mean, hell, I never would have had the balls to hit deadlift like I do every session if it weren't for Stiff. And Big Tex is always there to answer questions. MrJiggy and Trevor are my nerd posse. iBob reminds me that I need to stop overthinking shit. You get the idea.I do agree that the DH team needs to be a little more hands on, however. And we do have some people giving out advice who probably need to do a little more looking around first. Hopefully they can tighten the reigns just slightly in the future, but remember that Keifer is really just starting to build this business up. Give it a little while.
Dear God Yes!I love this place. Normally I'm not big on forums, but this place really has become a second home of sorts. There are so many of you guys and gals whom I'd love to chill with if given the chance. It's not often you find a place (or at least I find a place) you can share your life with, rather it be training and diet, or our weird obsessions, love lifes, struggles with life in general, and everyone will just accept it and give you advice or just say "We got your back, dude!".In other words, I love you guys.Odd post, I might be feeling a bit nostalgic coming into my DH anniversary.
Having you been popping too many of those weird candies again Trevor? I told you not to steal anything from anyone in a rave.Just kidding. This place is awesome for sure. Collection of colorful fellas we have, yet very little of the insipid trolling that goes on on just about every other forum. I've always been a fan of avoiding the internet/forums when it comes to training cause I don't need any encouragement to workout/diet, but the DH forums provide solid information along with entertainment.
Having you been popping too many of those weird candies again Trevor? I told you not to steal anything from anyone in a rave.Just kidding. This place is awesome for sure. Collection of colorful fellas we have, yet very little of the insipid trolling that goes on on just about every other forum. I've always been a fan of avoiding the internet/forums when it comes to training cause I don't need any encouragement to workout/diet, but the DH forums provide solid information along with entertainment.
Shit, you got me. To much pill popping lately.I'm gonna be an ass the end of this month. Cold turkey dropping stims for a week, plus taking a week away form the gym. I will avoid people entirely.
I'm guilty too haha.Ain't that a bitch when you are detoxing from stims and people try to interact with you, and they keep asking what's wrong and why you look like you are dying? I get wayyyy jumpy when that happens, like I just wanna strangle people so they shut up.I was out of coffee/stims/nicotine for a day two weeks ago I think, and it was a struggle to get to the office's coffee machine. People tried to talk to me and all I could say was "wait a minute, wait a minute..." muttering like a demented junkie looking for a fix.
I'm guilty too haha.Ain't that a bitch when you are detoxing from stims and people try to interact with you, and they keep asking what's wrong and why you look like you are dying? I get wayyyy jumpy when that happens, like I just wanna strangle people so they shut up.I was out of coffee/stims/nicotine for a day two weeks ago I think, and it was a struggle to get to the office's coffee machine. People tried to talk to me and all I could say was "wait a minute, wait a minute..." muttering like a demented junkie looking for a fix.
Yeah, I've warned my family and girlfriend. I'm really not to bad cutting away from stims, but do stop training and force myself to work on yoga and stuff, sleep better, and I'm going ULC lower protein high fat, so for the first 3-4 days I'm gonna want to kill myself. My Wednesday that week I should be fine.. At least I hope.
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