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  • #4729

    darienmd
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    First off, I hate the smith machine. A couple of the routines laid out in Shockwave say to use it (close grip bench & military press). Is there any benefit to using it over just the barbell? I would much rather use a rack with a bar.

    #94394

    Richard Schmitt
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    Personally I don't use the Smith Machine at all with SW. Just the barbell, dumbbells, and cables/machines.

    #94395

    darienmd
    Member

    Personally I don't use the Smith Machine at all with SW. Just the barbell, dumbbells, and cables/machines.

    sounds good. i hate that shit.

    #94396

    pshannon
    Member

    Why do you hate the smith machine? Let me throw a little article at you from someone that is stronger than you.http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/why_i_love_the_smith_machinemaybe you should hate something worth hating, like cats or getting caught in the rain.

    #94397

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    XD Peter I can't help but laugh at almost every smart-ass post you make. Hatred to cats? Haha

    #94398

    darienmd
    Member

    Why do you hate the smith machine? Let me throw a little article at you from someone that is stronger than you.http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/why_i_love_the_smith_machinemaybe you should hate something worth hating, like cats or getting caught in the rain.

    well first off, that article goes on a lot of 'if' scenarios. "if you dont want to work stabilizers" or "if you have an injury", none of which are the case for me. So, for me, a free-bar rack is more beneficial/enjoyable, but thank you for the article.secondly, i hate cats more than almost anything on this planet.

    #94399

    pshannon
    Member

    Why do you hate the smith machine? Let me throw a little article at you from someone that is stronger than you.http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/why_i_love_the_smith_machinemaybe you should hate something worth hating, like cats or getting caught in the rain.

    well first off, that article goes on a lot of 'if' scenarios. "if you dont want to work stabilizers" or "if you have an injury", none of which are the case for me. So, for me, a free-bar rack is more beneficial/enjoyable, but thank you for the article.secondly, i hate cats more than almost anything on this planet.

    There are a lot of "if" scenarios in life. What IF i read to the end of the article? What IF I stopped hating cats (who would ever do that)?Lets share what i think is the most important part of the article...."I don't expect anyone to scrap the basic lifts from their routine in favor of the Smith machine exercises, nor do I think that's necessary or even ideal. The Smith machine is simply a tool, and in the right context, a very effective one."There are many practical ways to use the smith machine and not look like a tard. 1. After a really heavy set of Flat DB press or Incline DB press, going over to the smith machine loading it up with a weight and just banging out some Decline bench, and not worrying about dropping the weight on your head.  2. Squating in it lower than you can with a bar without having to think about bailing out or getting stuck in the hole. Of course this after Leg curls + Leg Press + RDLs. Cats are always plotting.....hate them

    #94400

    darienmd
    Member

    Why do you hate the smith machine? Let me throw a little article at you from someone that is stronger than you.http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/why_i_love_the_smith_machinemaybe you should hate something worth hating, like cats or getting caught in the rain.

    well first off, that article goes on a lot of 'if' scenarios. "if you dont want to work stabilizers" or "if you have an injury", none of which are the case for me. So, for me, a free-bar rack is more beneficial/enjoyable, but thank you for the article.secondly, i hate cats more than almost anything on this planet.

    There are a lot of "if" scenarios in life. What IF i read to the end of the article? What IF I stopped hating cats (who would ever do that)?Lets share what i think is the most important part of the article...."I don't expect anyone to scrap the basic lifts from their routine in favor of the Smith machine exercises, nor do I think that's necessary or even ideal. The Smith machine is simply a tool, and in the right context, a very effective one."There are many practical ways to use the smith machine and not look like a tard. 1. After a really heavy set of Flat DB press or Incline DB press, going over to the smith machine loading it up with a weight and just banging out some Decline bench, and not worrying about dropping the weight on your head.  2. Squating in it lower than you can with a bar without having to think about bailing out or getting stuck in the hole. Of course this after Leg curls + Leg Press + RDLs. Cats are always plotting.....hate them

    haha i did read the whole article. i guess i should have added another reason i have a sincere distaste for the smith is because i go to l.a. fitness, unfortunately. and that means that at any given time there are a dozen clowns surrounding each of the three smith machines talking about their fucking date-raping escapades and frat parties and then doing a set of 500 "lean-beack" squats with 100lbs. i'm frustrated. also, i like doing a lot of assistance work in my 5/3/1 program (when i go back to that) and I just much prefer the feel of a free bar.

    #94401

    pshannon
    Member

    See you don't hate the smith machine….you hate the “bros”, which I think we all do.Embrace the smith machine. Do a set of 25 for Incline press...then flick off the "bros"BUT if I ever hear about you doing up-right rows in the smith machine....you don't even want to know.

    #94402

    See you don't hate the smith machine....you hate the "bros", which I think we all do.Embrace the smith machine. Do a set of 25 for Incline press...then flick off the "bros"BUT if I ever hear about you doing up-right rows in the smith machine....you don't even want to know.

    +1The Smith has its uses, but they should not involve bent-rows.  LOL.The fucking "brahs"... they definitely won't be using the smith for Squats... they never train legs.Cory

    #94403

    Gavin White
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    See you don't hate the smith machine....you hate the "bros", which I think we all do.Embrace the smith machine. Do a set of 25 for Incline press...then flick off the "bros"BUT if I ever hear about you doing up-right rows in the smith machine....you don't even want to know.

    The fucking "brahs"... they definitely won't be using the smith for Squats... they never train legs.Cory

    +1 😀

    #94404

    guitarslinger16
    Participant

    I hate the smith machine too. But in my gym they dont have a free bench for bench press. A huge liability i guess. To many stupid kids probably got hurt. I even told the person running my box gym i would sign a waiver but anyway. Is it ok to use db for the smith machine workouts and for benching. Also can someone explain the incline iso hammer press. I couldnt find a video.  Thank you

    #94405

    guitarslinger16
    Participant

    I change my mind about the smith machine after watching pshannons link

    #94406

    Feanor
    Guest

    I love the Smith machine!For inverted rows. That's about it though.

    #94407

    BenjaminD
    Member

    Why do you hate the smith machine? Let me throw a little article at you from someone that is stronger than you.http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/why_i_love_the_smith_machinemaybe you should hate something worth hating, like cats or getting caught in the rain.

    This is immediately what came to my mind.I finally got the opportunlty to do Smith machine bent over rows and it was arguably one of the best back movements I've ever done. I hate that I'm saying this: I can't wait to get back to a gym that has a Smith machine.

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