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I wasn't personally insulting you or your work ethic. It just sounded like you didn't put too much thought into your training. And you said that you didn't follow a plan.
Well I meant in terms of a recognised plan such as Shockwave etc. I have my own 'routines' as such, which I mix up now and again. Just not prescribed from any particular 'guru' or 'fitness pro' as it were. I guess as you'd expect, when you aren't seeing the results you want, you are naturally going to question these things. In reality, I think it's just the whole backloading thing which I need to look more closely at, the timing of it and what carbs suit me best and how much I consume. This is obviously a much bigger variable with people than the training, as long as the training ticks the volume and intensity boxes.
I agree, spill over might be a bit of a concern. Also try not to eat fat about 6 hours pre workout, then eat some fat with your last few meals and with your backload. You may be getting your insulin spike while your body is still metabolizing dietary fat.
Interesting, hadn't thought of that being an issue. To what detriment does this have then exactly, if I'm still metabolizing dietary fat (from earlier in the day) after my workout? I thought fat with the backload was not advised as this could blunt insulin response, or is that not really the case?
I wasn't personally insulting you or your work ethic. It just sounded like you didn't put too much thought into your training. And you said that you didn't follow a plan.
Well I meant in terms of a recognised plan such as Shockwave etc. I have my own 'routines' as such, which I mix up now and again. Just not prescribed from any particular 'guru' or 'fitness pro' as it were. I guess as you'd expect, when you aren't seeing the results you want, you are naturally going to question these things. In reality, I think it's just the whole backloading thing which I need to look more closely at, the timing of it and what carbs suit me best and how much I consume. This is obviously a much bigger variable with people than the training, as long as the training ticks the volume and intensity boxes.
I agree, spill over might be a bit of a concern. Also try not to eat fat about 6 hours pre workout, then eat some fat with your last few meals and with your backload. You may be getting your insulin spike while your body is still metabolizing dietary fat.
Interesting, hadn't thought of that being an issue. To what detriment does this have then exactly, if I'm still metabolizing dietary fat (from earlier in the day) after my workout? I thought fat with the backload was not advised as this could blunt insulin response, or is that not really the case?
Training is what CBL depends on. It is the most important variable. As far as what RB said, Kiefer said he typically has his client's last ULC meal two hours pre workout. 6 hours is probably overkill, but if you want to go the conservative route it's probably a good idea.
I wasn't personally insulting you or your work ethic. It just sounded like you didn't put too much thought into your training. And you said that you didn't follow a plan.
Well I meant in terms of a recognised plan such as Shockwave etc. I have my own 'routines' as such, which I mix up now and again. Just not prescribed from any particular 'guru' or 'fitness pro' as it were. I guess as you'd expect, when you aren't seeing the results you want, you are naturally going to question these things. In reality, I think it's just the whole backloading thing which I need to look more closely at, the timing of it and what carbs suit me best and how much I consume. This is obviously a much bigger variable with people than the training, as long as the training ticks the volume and intensity boxes.
I agree, spill over might be a bit of a concern. Also try not to eat fat about 6 hours pre workout, then eat some fat with your last few meals and with your backload. You may be getting your insulin spike while your body is still metabolizing dietary fat.
Interesting, hadn't thought of that being an issue. To what detriment does this have then exactly, if I'm still metabolizing dietary fat (from earlier in the day) after my workout? I thought fat with the backload was not advised as this could blunt insulin response, or is that not really the case?
Backload fat within your backload. Start your backloads lean and increase fat as you get closer to the end of the backload time.
Training is what CBL depends on. It is the most important variable.
I don't argue that it depends on it, but a variable is something that changes. Training may change slightly from person to person of course, but it's ultimately all about volume and intensity. I was referring to the variability in that what one person eats and sees results with may vary significantly from someone else, far more so than you would see in training, as long as that training is intense enough. So therefore food is the far bigger and more important variable, as that's what changes more from person to person in order to see results. Training is CRUCIAL of course, and CBL won't work without it, but it's not a variable in the same way food is.
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