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    I'm not following a set weight routine, although plan to try Shockwave out. I don't think my workouts are bad though. I push myself, do a good split and don't get bogged down doing exactly the same thing week in week out. When you say "a lot of volume" can you give examples?High volume would be a lot of sets and exercises per body part. Some people like it and some people don't.Stress is OK, and I get good quality food. Sleep, may be something there, as I often find myself working late at home, and it's not unusual for me to get to bed at 2am, although I get 7-8 hours every night.

    I would suggest picking a routine that way you are able to keep track. You can modifiy depending on goals and what not.

    #187951

    CCT
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    Irregular sleep can be a problem, even if your are getting 7-8 hours a night.  You may want to do some things to improve quality of sleep such as take Vit D. every morning.  Training 4x per week with slightly poor sleep quality could cause some unnoticed over training. You may not feel it, but it may be stalling progress. 

    #187952

    Aarron
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    Have you noticed any improvement atomicus?Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 2

    #187953

    backlash79
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    Only briefly skimmed the rest of the thread but I didn't see it being said.Have you tried to cut back on how much you backload on those nights? 1. Cutting down on how much you are backloadingOR2. Cutting down the frequency in which you are backloading (which someone else did suggest).

    #187954

    tzanghi
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    There are likely two options here: 1)cut down backloads in either size or frequency or 2)throw in some HIIT.  It's tough to tell exactly what's going on because we don't have and idea of macros, but these solutions will usually yield some results.Also, how big are you?  200-300g per backload could be perfect, way too little, or way too much depending on how big you are.

    #187955

    TCB
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    There are likely two options here: 1)cut down backloads in either size or frequency or 2)throw in some HIIT.  It's tough to tell exactly what's going on because we don't have and idea of macros, but these solutions will usually yield some results.Also, how big are you?  200-300g per backload could be perfect, way too little, or way too much depending on how big you are.

    He's 5'7 170, per his profile text 🙂And I agree. I'd experiment with 1 less backload a week and toss in 1-2 HIIT sessions a week and see what happens..

    #187956

    tzanghi
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    There are likely two options here: 1)cut down backloads in either size or frequency or 2)throw in some HIIT.  It's tough to tell exactly what's going on because we don't have and idea of macros, but these solutions will usually yield some results.Also, how big are you?  200-300g per backload could be perfect, way too little, or way too much depending on how big you are.

    He's 5'7 170, per his profile text 🙂And I agree. I'd experiment with 1 less backload a week and toss in 1-2 HIIT sessions a week and see what happens..

    Ahh, yes.  I missed that looking at the topic summary after quoting.

    #187957

    Brandon D Christ
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    There are likely two options here: 1)cut down backloads in either size or frequency or 2)throw in some HIIT.  It's tough to tell exactly what's going on because we don't have and idea of macros, but these solutions will usually yield some results.Also, how big are you?  200-300g per backload could be perfect, way too little, or way too much depending on how big you are.

    He's 5'7 170, per his profile text 🙂And I agree. I'd experiment with 1 less backload a week and toss in 1-2 HIIT sessions a week and see what happens..

    Ahh, yes.  I missed that looking at the topic summary after quoting.

    We need bodyfat percentage too.  170 at 5'7" could mean jacked and or ripped or chubby.  Sounds like the training isn't intense enough and/or enough volume.  Fat consumption sounds like it might be too much as well.

    #187958

    Ourko
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    It's 5'11 😉 but BF still needed.

    #187959

    tzanghi
    Participant

    I think at 5'11″ 170 we can conclude that 300g of carbs 4x per week is too much.  200g might even be too much.  I think the problem is too many carbs.  Either add in some HIIT, or reduce the carb amounts is my prescription.

    #187960

    Roadblock
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    I agree, spill over might be a bit of a concern. Also try not to eat fat about 6 hours pre workout, then eat some fat with your last few meals and with your backload. You may be getting your insulin spike while your body is still metabolizing dietary fat.RB

    #187961

    Brandon D Christ
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    I think at 5'11" 170 we can conclude that 300g of carbs 4x per week is too much.  200g might even be too much.  I think the problem is too many carbs.  Either add in some HIIT, or reduce the carb amounts is my prescription.

    I think the training volume and intensity really needs a bump up.  It sounds to me like the original poster is not really doing all that much.  He said himself that he doesn't have a plan and he probably doesn't have the experience under his belt to intuitively train.

    #187962

    TCB
    Participant

    It's 5'11 😉 but BF still needed.

    Doh! Touche.All good advice here though.

    #187963

    atomicus
    Member

    Yeah 5'11, don't knock me down 4″ ha! I did come to conclusion I was perhaps backloading too often, and since cutting back on that (and adding in some HIIT) it's been OK. Despite what ibob says, I DO have a training plan, and I have enough experience under my belt to know what I'm doing in this regard, it's just adapting it to CBL and finding out what works best for me. Overall, I have seen positive changes since I started CBL. I am slightly offended by the suggestion that I'm “not really doing all that much” lol! >:(

    #187964

    Brandon D Christ
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    This is what you said:

    I'm not following a set weight routine, although plan to try Shockwave out. I don't think my workouts are bad though. I push myself, do a good split and don't get bogged down doing exactly the same thing week in week out. When you say "a lot of volume" can you give examples?Stress is OK, and I get good quality food. Sleep, may be something there, as I often find myself working late at home, and it's not unusual for me to get to bed at 2am, although I get 7-8 hours every night.

    I wasn't personally insulting you or your work ethic.  It just sounded like you didn't put too much thought into your training.  And you said that you didn't follow a plan.

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