Strategy Plan for <10%Bodyfat

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    cookieb
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    ok – all makes sense. I know I shouldn't sweat it. not weighing for a month was a big relief, just felt it was mandatory to do it going back into carb nite and got quite the shock, since I've been feeling especially lean. Excited to be back to lifting heavy, and even more excited about doing Wendler's program. Trying to let the number go.Thanks for the reply!

    #70760

    Richard Schmitt
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    I would bet that it's the holding water from the creatine. Have you tried the Natural Calm to try and possibly clear out your system a bit? Might help. Try cycling off of the creatine to see if weight goes down like you want. Though since your husband mentions that you're looking better why not keep doing what you're doing? I know you want to drop weight but making yourself look better should be the main purpose/goal. The added inch could be the result of having “stuff” in your system a bit.

    #70761

    cookieb
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    Thanks Tex. I couldn't find the natural calm at my supermarket….Gonna try Walgreens later

    #70762

    Thanks Tex. I couldn't find the natural calm at my supermarket....Gonna try Walgreens later

    Order it from amazon, it's the easiest and cheapest way to get it.

    #70763

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Thanks Tex. I couldn't find the natural calm at my supermarket....Gonna try Walgreens later

    Order it from amazon, it's the easiest and cheapest way to get it.

    +1 the one I have doubles the size from any store and the same price.

    #70764

    Marty P Koch
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    I would bet that it's the holding water from the creatine. Have you tried the Natural Calm to try and possibly clear out your system a bit? Might help. Try cycling off of the creatine to see if weight goes down like you want. Though since your husband mentions that you're looking better why not keep doing what you're doing? I know you want to drop weight but making yourself look better should be the main purpose/goal. The added inch could be the result of having "stuff" in your system a bit.

    Excellent point made by Tex.  I think y'all (women), in particular, get focused too much on the scale and don't pay enough attention to the mirror and how clothes fit at times.  Don't try to hit 'a number on the scale' so much as what Tex says in that you should redefine the end goal of looking, feeling, performing better and that scale number be damned.  Nobody will (shouldn't, anyway) walk up to you and say, "How much do you weigh?"  They will only know what they see, and if it is 'good', then you have acheived your goal.  That is not to say, however, that you or any of us should be in this game for others' approval.  It is all about setting goals and knocking them down as you reach for a new one, whatever means you use to determine those goals.

    #70765

    randyleahy
    Guest

    I would bet that it's the holding water from the creatine. Have you tried the Natural Calm to try and possibly clear out your system a bit? Might help. Try cycling off of the creatine to see if weight goes down like you want. Though since your husband mentions that you're looking better why not keep doing what you're doing? I know you want to drop weight but making yourself look better should be the main purpose/goal. The added inch could be the result of having "stuff" in your system a bit.

    Excellent point made by Tex.  I think y'all (women), in particular, get focused too much on the scale and don't pay enough attention to the mirror and how clothes fit at times.  Don't try to hit 'a number on the scale' so much as what Tex says in that you should redefine the end goal of looking, feeling, performing better and that scale number be damned.  Nobody will (shouldn't, anyway) walk up to you and say, "How much do you weigh?"  They will only know what they see, and if it is 'good', then you have acheived your goal.  That is not to say, however, that you or any of us should be in this game for others' approval.  It is all about setting goals and knocking them down as you reach for a new one, whatever means you use to determine those goals.

    Exactly...the ultimate goal should be to gain weight while getting leaner. The scale and cut/bulk mindset imho hold people back, I am constantly looking for muscle accumulation.

    #70766

    filippelli74
    Participant

    So if not eggs then what is a good recomindation for a 10 am meal? I get up around 7 and starving around 10. Currently I am eating 4 eggs and 4 slices of bacon.  Lunch is a 1 lb of ground beef or steak or turkey burgers with avacado. Snack is about 24 raw almonds.  Then pw shake is 50 g protien with 70 g carbs. Hour later is pizza or sushi with bowl of rice or sometimes hamberger and fries. My load is usually rice cereal with skim milk then hr later ice cream or cake . i shoot for 300 g. I was at <10% prior to starting this diet but now I am over that for sure. I have a little spare tire and some fat under my chest starting up now. So I know I must be doing something wrong. I am 5'11 187lbs working out 6 x week.

    #70767

    Caino
    Participant

    So if not eggs then what is a good recomindation for a 10 am meal? I get up around 7 and starving around 10. Currently I am eating 4 eggs and 4 slices of bacon.  Lunch is a 1 lb of ground beef or steak or turkey burgers with avacado. Snack is about 24 raw almonds.  Then pw shake is 50 g protien with 70 g carbs. Hour later is pizza or sushi with bowl of rice or sometimes hamberger and fries. My load is usually rice cereal with skim milk then hr later ice cream or cake . i shoot for 300 g. I was at <10% prior to starting this diet but now I am over that for sure. I have a little spare tire and some fat under my chest starting up now. So I know I must be doing something wrong. I am 5'11 187lbs working out 6 x week.

    I still am convinced especially on your workout days to keep fats to a low that includes on the ulc part of the day! Im 145 and yeh no abbs anymore and i been doin it 2 weeks lol

    #70768

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    I still am convinced especially on your workout days to keep fats to a low that includes on the ulc part of the day! Im 145 and yeh no abbs anymore and i been doin it 2 weeks lol

    Id be more worried that you are doing your backloads wrong rather than getting too much fat in the ULC part of the day. Are you on SA or DB? At 145lb you dont have a lot of muscle mass to act as insurance against a backload gone wild!

    #70769

    Caino
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    I still am convinced especially on your workout days to keep fats to a low that includes on the ulc part of the day! Im 145 and yeh no abbs anymore and i been doin it 2 weeks lol

    Id be more worried that you are doing your backloads wrong rather than getting too much fat in the ULC part of the day. Are you on SA or DB? At 145lb you dont have a lot of muscle mass to act as insurance against a backload gone wild!

    You know what, you might have me there my friend, good thinking, i do tend to get a fair bit of a sweet tooth on the ol backload but i havnt gone past 400g of carbs, delta chart told me 600 due toWhat i lost in the prep, but i didnt go by that, im just returning from a 2 month break so muscle mass isnt the best at the mo, i just wanna get a wee bit more jacked before the end of year festivities start happening!! and im doing SA weights 3xweek boxing/sprints 3x

    #70770

    CptSmash
    Member

    Hi Zach, Been dieting my whole life :)....Just came off a 3 week stint of CBL where I was backloading with about 130 g's carbs every night for that exact purpose. Switched to detox after. No salty food, pretty much bare bones detox. Beef, bacon, eggs, CO, and peppers. kerry gold and bacon fat to make up for fat/protein ration.Yep, creatine Mono hydrate. Also, been sleeping better than before - thought that would help. I had also switched to more of a conditioning type program (higher reps, 70-60% weights) to give my body a break cause I was going pretty hard and heavy before that.Starting 5/3/1 on Wed (that will put me at a 5 day deload)...Lift in the AM - I do still need the whey, correct? Should I keep the creatine in there? And coffee with fat still prior to lifting?

    Then that's all good. I feel its mandatory to ask if people have taken a break because most people go too hard too long, especially when they are achieving consistent results. Yes, I would use the whey after lifting, and as for creatine, if you feel it makes you stronger I would keep it. Just know you'll be a bit heavier because your muscles will be holding more water. Also, I don't know if this is true or not, because I haven't lifted high reps in a while, and have had no reason to research it, but I've heard that High Rep training can cause adaptations within the muscle to hold more glycogen, which means that could also cause you to retain some water. Just a theory though. Good luck 🙂

    First off, creatine will cause some water gain, but not a whole lot unless you're loading with carbs.  Secondly, bloating shouldn't be that big of a problem without excess carbohydrates unless your body is trying to get rid of something it doesn't like, as in an allergy.  Thirdly, my guess is that you're constipated.  How much fiber are you getting?  If you haven't been regular for a while, you're probably backed up like crazy, which explains the bloating, the stomach expansion, and feeling extraordinarily full.  Oh yeah, and the weight gain.

    #70771

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    I still am convinced especially on your workout days to keep fats to a low that includes on the ulc part of the day! Im 145 and yeh no abbs anymore and i been doin it 2 weeks lol

    Id be more worried that you are doing your backloads wrong rather than getting too much fat in the ULC part of the day. Are you on SA or DB? At 145lb you dont have a lot of muscle mass to act as insurance against a backload gone wild!

    You know what, you might have me there my friend, good thinking, i do tend to get a fair bit of a sweet tooth on the ol backload but i havnt gone past 400g of carbs, delta chart told me 600 due toWhat i lost in the prep, but i didnt go by that, im just returning from a 2 month break so muscle mass isnt the best at the mo, i just wanna get a wee bit more jacked before the end of year festivities start happening!! and im doing SA weights 3xweek boxing/sprints 3x

    I dont know how the book words it, but I imagine if you lost X amount of weight during X amount of days that the carb number recommended is to cover a similar amount of time. So say you lost 4lbs in 7 days then (using the 3:1 water/carb ratio) youd need 1lb (roughly 450grams) of carbohydrates per 7 days. Divided over however many training sessions. Say 3 training sessions at 150grams each.I could be very wrong however. I think going by the forums there is a lot of confusion with the charts in the CBL book. sckiely has a thread that might help http://dangerouslyhardcore.com/forum/index.php?topic=4746.0EDIT: SWEET TOOTH: Less Fructose more Dextrose could help you if your sources of Carb are sugary. Whats your normal backloading foods of choice?

    #70772

    CptSmash
    Member

    I still am convinced especially on your workout days to keep fats to a low that includes on the ulc part of the day! Im 145 and yeh no abbs anymore and i been doin it 2 weeks lol

    Id be more worried that you are doing your backloads wrong rather than getting too much fat in the ULC part of the day. Are you on SA or DB? At 145lb you dont have a lot of muscle mass to act as insurance against a backload gone wild!

    You know what, you might have me there my friend, good thinking, i do tend to get a fair bit of a sweet tooth on the ol backload but i havnt gone past 400g of carbs, delta chart told me 600 due toWhat i lost in the prep, but i didnt go by that, im just returning from a 2 month break so muscle mass isnt the best at the mo, i just wanna get a wee bit more jacked before the end of year festivities start happening!! and im doing SA weights 3xweek boxing/sprints 3x

    I dont know how the book words it, but I imagine if you lost X amount of weight during X amount of days that the carb number recommended is to cover a similar amount of time. So say you lost 4lbs in 7 days then (using the 3:1 water/carb ratio) youd need 1lb (roughly 450grams) of carbohydrates per 7 days. Divided over however many training sessions. Say 3 training sessions at 150grams each.I could be very wrong however. I think going by the forums there is a lot of confusion with the charts in the CBL book. sckiely has a thread that might help http://dangerouslyhardcore.com/forum/index.php?topic=4746.0

    I'm not even sure those charts are very accurate at all.  I mean if you look at the results across the board the standard works.  Go big on a backload, see how you do and feel in the morning.  If you're spilling over it was too big and begin tapering back.  All this is very individualistic.  You have to modify it for your own personal level of carbohydrate deficit.  If you're powering through a couple hard workouts a day and doing HIIT on top of that you're going to need more carbohydrates to fill up the stores.  If you're 200lbs and doing that you're going to need more  carbs.  If you're 150lbs and doing 5-3-1 with one assistance exercise prior to your main lift and you sit at a desk all day, you're not going to need a lot of extra carbohydrate to fill your glycogen stores up.  Just saying...

    #70773

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    I'm not even sure those charts are very accurate at all.  I mean if you look at the results across the board the standard works.  Go big on a backload, see how you do and feel in the morning.  If you're spilling over it was too big and begin tapering back.  All this is very individualistic.  You have to modify it for your own personal level of carbohydrate deficit. 

    Agreed.

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