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August 21, 2012 at 6:18 am #70714
Slaughter UKMemberI know I'm pretty alone on this one but I can't back load big and look lean. I back load 200-300 carbs a night Mon-Fri and wake up looking amazing (male, 5'10", 200 lbs). I have also learned that I gain WAY more muscle doing the small back loads than I did being ULC for almost two years. I have easily put on as much muscle in the last two months dong CBL as I did the first two years working out. I could always get stronger but I never put on mass. I know it is mass and not just water swelling either.
I have also found that anything above 300g of CHO in my backloads is not beneficial aesthetically. 2-300g CHO is my usual backload for me @ around 162lbs 8%.
August 21, 2012 at 6:48 am #70715
dash102MemberI know I'm pretty alone on this one but I can't back load big and look lean. I back load 200-300 carbs a night Mon-Fri and wake up looking amazing (male, 5'10", 200 lbs). I have also learned that I gain WAY more muscle doing the small back loads than I did being ULC for almost two years. I have easily put on as much muscle in the last two months dong CBL as I did the first two years working out. I could always get stronger but I never put on mass. I know it is mass and not just water swelling either.
I have also found that anything above 300g of CHO in my backloads is not beneficial aesthetically. 2-300g CHO is my usual backload for me @ around 162lbs 8%.
Agree, 200 to 300g is my limit also...
August 21, 2012 at 11:06 am #70716
Richard SchmittModeratorY'all could probably get away with more if you add dextrose to shakes or to the foods. Whole foods seem to have me stop pretty early as well.
August 21, 2012 at 4:22 pm #70717
CptSmashMemberY'all could probably get away with more if you add dextrose to shakes or to the foods. Whole foods seem to have me stop pretty early as well.
I'm killing my back loads, as long as I stay away from potatoes. Rice seems to work pretty good for me. That, french toast, english muffins, croissants (but I'm already bored with those). Nilla wafers and vanilla icecream tonight was pretty killer.I'm shooting for healthier back load tomorrow though. I go 'slutty back loads' on my heavy lift days, then 'catholic school girl back loads' on my not so heavy days!
August 21, 2012 at 10:40 pm #70718
AkumaZMemberY'all could probably get away with more if you add dextrose to shakes or to the foods. Whole foods seem to have me stop pretty early as well.
I'm killing my back loads, as long as I stay away from potatoes. Rice seems to work pretty good for me. That, french toast, english muffins, croissants (but I'm already bored with those). Nilla wafers and vanilla icecream tonight was pretty killer.I'm shooting for healthier back load tomorrow though. I go 'slutty back loads' on my heavy lift days, then 'catholic school girl back loads' on my not so heavy days!
So basically both backloads are the same? ;D
August 22, 2012 at 5:21 am #70719
FineSigilMemberThe 200-300g limit reminded me of this approach (first heard on superhuman radio).http://www.universalusa.com/Community/Eat/Articles/The-180-DietBasically, 180 grams of carbs as minimum threshold. Increase by 50-100 grams when feeling depleted. Then dial down after pump/fullness returns. Similar concept of cycling carbs....really seems like this "toggling" of higher carbs and lower carbs through the week, adjusted per workout demands and feedback, is the holy grail...
August 22, 2012 at 7:30 am #70720
CptSmashMemberY'all could probably get away with more if you add dextrose to shakes or to the foods. Whole foods seem to have me stop pretty early as well.
I'm killing my back loads, as long as I stay away from potatoes. Rice seems to work pretty good for me. That, french toast, english muffins, croissants (but I'm already bored with those). Nilla wafers and vanilla icecream tonight was pretty killer.I'm shooting for healthier back load tomorrow though. I go 'slutty back loads' on my heavy lift days, then 'catholic school girl back loads' on my not so heavy days!
So basically both backloads are the same? ;D
LOL, yeah...but one is clean and nice. One is just plain dirty.
August 22, 2012 at 8:36 am #70721
paullGuestas far as my “strategy” goes…assuming we´ve got a training-schedule like this:day1:late-afternoon training of muscle groups that don´t require that much of energy like chest,shoulders,arms - backload to get anabolic signal of the carbs for these particular muscle groups and kinda front-load for the next days heavy sessionday2:fasted-morning-training of muscle groups like back and legs - ulc-dayday3:off-day - going ulcday4:start cycle againhave done this for like a 4 week-cycle and worked pretty well concerning improving shape and keeping my workouts nice and intense.greetz 🙂
August 25, 2012 at 12:36 pm #70722
jimbo40MemberY'all could probably get away with more if you add dextrose to shakes or to the foods. Whole foods seem to have me stop pretty early as well.
I'm killing my back loads, as long as I stay away from potatoes. Rice seems to work pretty good for me. That, french toast, english muffins, croissants (but I'm already bored with those). Nilla wafers and vanilla icecream tonight was pretty killer.I'm shooting for healthier back load tomorrow though. I go 'slutty back loads' on my heavy lift days, then 'catholic school girl back loads' on my not so heavy days!
Big Tex: what do you notice differently about your backloads with potatoes?
August 25, 2012 at 12:38 pm #70723
Richard SchmittModeratorY'all could probably get away with more if you add dextrose to shakes or to the foods. Whole foods seem to have me stop pretty early as well.
I'm killing my back loads, as long as I stay away from potatoes. Rice seems to work pretty good for me. That, french toast, english muffins, croissants (but I'm already bored with those). Nilla wafers and vanilla icecream tonight was pretty killer.I'm shooting for healthier back load tomorrow though. I go 'slutty back loads' on my heavy lift days, then 'catholic school girl back loads' on my not so heavy days!
Big Tex: what do you notice differently about your backloads with potatoes?
Currently on CNS at the moment, but when I have my first carb meal with potatoes and/or gluten free white bread I'll feel fine. Not too full or bloated. About an hour later however once I start getting in those treats is a different story. Anything whole food slows me down and limits me. Adding water or coconut milk will help increase that affect. However, ice cream different story.
August 26, 2012 at 4:37 pm #70724
AdamFiddlerGuestAre these strategies for:Maintaining <10% BForAchieving < 10% BF?-Adam
August 26, 2012 at 4:52 pm #70725
CptSmashMemberAre these strategies for:Maintaining <10% BForAchieving < 10% BF This is the ultimate goal for this article, although maintaining that %BF would run in conjunction with these strategies.?-Adam
August 26, 2012 at 5:34 pm #70726
AdamFiddlerGuestCool thanks.Btw, what are CHO's?
August 26, 2012 at 5:59 pm #70727
FairyGuestCHO = CarboHydrates
August 26, 2012 at 6:19 pm #70728
AdamFiddlerGuestWhere does the O come from? (I actually thought it was “CarboHydrate Only” when I first read it).
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