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March 29, 2014 at 2:31 pm #10957
BlaxmasParticipantIn the CBL book, Kiefer says that under the section about “training fasted in the morning” section that an “off-day” as “a day in which you DON'T train the next morning.” This got me thinking, does it then stand to reason that, if you're always backloading to refill your glycogen stores for the NEXT day's workout, should you NOT backload carbs after a workout (regardless of what time of the day I have been working out) if I will not work out the next day? For example: I hit the gym yesterday at 3:00 and backloading carbs in the evening but I am NOT working out today. Was that a mistake? Should I only backload after a workout if I am going to work out the NEXT day as well?
March 29, 2014 at 3:46 pm #216208
TCBParticipantLots of threads around the forum discussing this.Basically, no. If you're working out in the evening, backload post workout. If you're working out in the AM, backload the night before.
March 29, 2014 at 4:09 pm #216209
Richard SchmittModeratorYou Backload PWO regardless of training the next day. As prescribed in the book. AM Training you backload night prior, PM Training you backload. The filled glycogen will help the upcoming workouts you'll have in the week. Ibob laid this out in another thread but here's a great way to out it either way:Monday- Backload (Fueling Wednesday)Tuesday- RestWednesday- Backload (Fueling Friday)So on, so forth.
March 29, 2014 at 4:10 pm #216210
Brandon D ChristParticipantLots of threads around the forum discussing this.Basically, no. If you're working out in the evening, backload post workout. If you're working out in the AM, backload the night before.
Yea this horse has been beat to death, I can't believe people still struggle to understand this. The carbs in the backload are for the next training session, but the optimal time to load the carbs is at night and after a workout. Your glycogen doesn't disappear after one, two, and possibly even three days after being low carb.Some people have been successful by backloading the night before training days, even if they train in the evening. It's a valid way of doing CBL, but it is not the most optimal of doing it from a fat loss perspective.
March 29, 2014 at 7:47 pm #216211
BlaxmasParticipantI can speak only for myself but the reason I “fail to understand” some of this stuff is because of the amount of material in the book. Kiefer admits that there is the optimal way, the altered methods and even THEN there is still some room for “tinkering”. I have never been a tinkerer. I'm not a scientist, physicist or anybody else that could read that book and have it all make immediate and perfect sense. As a layman, I find it daunting even after several read-throughs. If the topic has been covered before, I apologize for wasting everybody's time.
March 29, 2014 at 8:03 pm #216212
Brandon D ChristParticipantI can speak only for myself but the reason I "fail to understand" some of this stuff is because of the amount of material in the book. Kiefer admits that there is the optimal way, the altered methods and even THEN there is still some room for "tinkering". I have never been a tinkerer. I'm not a scientist, physicist or anybody else that could read that book and have it all make immediate and perfect sense. As a layman, I find it daunting even after several read-throughs. If the topic has been covered before, I apologize for wasting everybody's time.
Don't worry about it. It's just that there is several threads and even a youtube video about this particular issue. Just try to search the forums before you make a new thread.
March 29, 2014 at 8:12 pm #216213
Gl;itch.eMemberLots of threads around the forum discussing this.Basically, no. If you're working out in the evening, backload post workout. If you're working out in the AM, backload the night before.
Yea this horse has been beat to death, I can't believe people still struggle to understand this. The carbs in the backload are for the next training session, but the optimal time to load the carbs is at night and after a workout. Your glycogen doesn't disappear after one, two, and possibly even three days after being low carb.Some people have been successful by backloading the night before training days, even if they train in the evening. It's a valid way of doing CBL, but it is not the most optimal of doing it from a fat loss perspective.
yep. IMO if you are backloading the night before training but haven't actually trained that day you can only really expect to refill liver glycogen and maybe muscle a little, depending on your own insulin sensitivity and metabolic health. Anyone challenged in these respects are better off by eating the majority of your carbs directly post workout regardless of when the next training day is. And remember that the whole translocation of Glut4 is muscle specific. So carbs post chest training isnt going to do much for your next workout if its legs for instance!
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