Supernating Deadlift Grip

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    mwachtel
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    @pshannon lol 🙂 I'm happy with my current career thank you!Okay, I'll just focus on making my Deadlift stronger...What about being able to walk with the bar?

    Farmers walk? Probably one of the better carrier over liftts for life, especially is grip is an issue. Also, Jim laird talked about it for shoulder stability/health.

    I love heavy farmers walk, all programs should have them.

    I gotta look at the price of lead. Get my bro to weld a couple lead suitcases for me.

    That would be awesome. Right now I just use heavy dumbbells, 90-110lbs depending on the day, but I'd love to get some handles.

    This is what I envision...

    #135486

    pshannon
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    @pshannon lol 🙂 I'm happy with my current career thank you!Okay, I'll just focus on making my Deadlift stronger...What about being able to walk with the bar?

    Farmers walk? Probably one of the better carrier over liftts for life, especially is grip is an issue. Also, Jim laird talked about it for shoulder stability/health.

    I love heavy farmers walk, all programs should have them.

    I gotta look at the price of lead. Get my bro to weld a couple lead suitcases for me.

    That would be awesome. Right now I just use heavy dumbbells, 90-110lbs depending on the day, but I'd love to get some handles.

    Have you trap bar? How much do you deadlift?

    Sadly, no trap bar. My gym doesn't have anything, I'm just lucky they even have one squat rack.Deadlift is 355.

    You can farmers walk more then that!

    #135487

    cloudybrain
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    I don't know if this makes sense, but deadlifts doesn't equate to lifting furniture, it may support it immensely, but it doesn't help all the way. It also doesn't matter if you supernate your grip at all, what if you have a piece of furniture that doesn't require that?The proper way of performing a deadlift is by pushing straight up with the starting position always fixed. But furniture has more variety, you might have to bend lower than others, you might not have a superior grip, you might have to over extend your back to reach a grip that is awkward. I remember when I had to carry drywall up three flights of stairs by myself, with all the squats and deadlifts I was doing in the gym, I had no preparation for that because of how awkward the posture of my body was in.What you really need to work on is your mobility and stabilizing muscles in addition to your main exercises. I'm a huge fan of core exercises because it improves overall lifting. By tighting your abs and back muscles during your lift, you'll add extra boost and umph to anything you carry.I know I'm writing too much, but I did want to mention my favorite event of the powerman competition; the africa stone or the husafell stone. Try watching those guys figure out how to carry so an off balanced object and just walk with it (some of those rocks have more of an off balance than others). Not only that, but each powerlifter body frame is different, so some have to compensate for what they lack.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7EemOHaU08&t=14m55sA nice exercise is if you can do an off-load farmers walk - which is basically having one side ten pounds lighter than the other - then switch. If you can't do that, use lighter weights, and be careful. You can keep the dumbells on your side, or pick them up over your shoulder (and do some squats in that position).

    #135488

    @pshannon lol 🙂 I'm happy with my current career thank you!Okay, I'll just focus on making my Deadlift stronger...What about being able to walk with the bar?

    Farmers walk? Probably one of the better carrier over liftts for life, especially is grip is an issue. Also, Jim laird talked about it for shoulder stability/health.

    I love heavy farmers walk, all programs should have them.

    I gotta look at the price of lead. Get my bro to weld a couple lead suitcases for me.

    That would be awesome. Right now I just use heavy dumbbells, 90-110lbs depending on the day, but I'd love to get some handles.

    Have you trap bar? How much do you deadlift?

    Sadly, no trap bar. My gym doesn't have anything, I'm just lucky they even have one squat rack.Deadlift is 355.

    You can farmers walk more then that!

    Providing my grip isn't already totally shot, I can.Sadly my gym maxes at 110.I did just finally get some straps so I can do more on back, they should be in today before I hit the gym for back day. =D

    #135489

    pshannon
    Member

    Providing my grip isn't already totally shot, I can.Sadly my gym maxes at 110.I did just finally get some straps so I can do more on back, they should be in today before I hit the gym for back day. =D

    I always strap for farmers. I don't use it for a grip exercise, more for a giant yoke.

    #135490

    Providing my grip isn't already totally shot, I can.Sadly my gym maxes at 110.I did just finally get some straps so I can do more on back, they should be in today before I hit the gym for back day. =D

    I always strap for farmers. I don't use it for a grip exercise, more for a giant yoke.

    A need for bigger traps is one of the biggest reason I got them, haha.I love doing one sided walks for core strength. I've learned I need to work more on my core then I have been so I'll be doing these more often.

    #135491

    pita413
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    @pshannon lol 🙂 I'm happy with my current career thank you!Okay, I'll just focus on making my Deadlift stronger...What about being able to walk with the bar?

    In all seriousness Tire flips - I know a girl that can do over 500lb tire flip and can DL well over 2x her BW. I'm sure she can move furniture. Farmers walks

    Yes, i can move furniture and am available for hire at an hourly rate of: COOK ME DINNER.

    #135492

    Fairy
    Guest

    Okay, farmers walk it is 🙂I've noticed sometimes the hardest part of my gym workout is actually picking up the weights, walking to the rack and racking them 😉

    #135493

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Just do the strength movements regularly.  Using a supinated grip on the deadlift, as pshannon said, is asking for a torn bicep.  There is no such thing as “functional strength”.  Strength is strength.  The reason that moving furniture is a lot harder than deadlifting is because it is much harder to grip and it stresses the crap out of your nervous system because you are lifting a weight that has an awkward distribution of mass.Adding farmer's walks (and other strongman movements) would be a good idea because they will develop grip strength,stamina, and isometric stength. 

    #135494

    cloudybrain
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    Okay, farmers walk it is 🙂I've noticed sometimes the hardest part of my gym workout is actually picking up the weights, walking to the rack and racking them 😉

    Good choice, try to do the suggestion I mentioned about off-loading it. It'll feel weird at first, but try doing weights that are appropriate. By having one side carry a weight 10-15 pounds heavier than the other, you'll start to really feel it where you might be lacking. My recommendation is to use dumbells.Try off-loading squats (dumbell next to ear on shoulder), try off-load dead-lifts, and try off-load farmers walk. Keep posture straight and no leaning. After doing this for a couple weeks to a month, do a regular deadlift and I promise you, you'll see improvements.And maybe as a supplement, try using a kettle ball or dumbell and do a few turkish get-ups. But if you don't wanna, you don't haveta.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkVVMzKlM24

    #135495

    pshannon
    Member

    Okay, farmers walk it is 🙂I've noticed sometimes the hardest part of my gym workout is actually picking up the weights, walking to the rack and racking them 😉

    Good choice, try to do the suggestion I mentioned about off-loading it. It'll feel weird at first, but try doing weights that are appropriate. By having one side carry a weight 10-15 pounds heavier than the other, you'll start to really feel it where you might be lacking. My recommendation is to use dumbells.Try off-loading squats (dumbell next to ear on shoulder), try off-load dead-lifts, and try off-load farmers walk. Keep posture straight and no leaning. After doing this for a couple weeks to a month, do a regular deadlift and I promise you, you'll see improvements.

    .I can honestly say that I have never heard of these techniques in training to get a bigger lift. If you did this for any extent of time your body would form terrible imbalances.

    #135496

    cloudybrain
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    Okay, farmers walk it is 🙂I've noticed sometimes the hardest part of my gym workout is actually picking up the weights, walking to the rack and racking them 😉

    Good choice, try to do the suggestion I mentioned about off-loading it. It'll feel weird at first, but try doing weights that are appropriate. By having one side carry a weight 10-15 pounds heavier than the other, you'll start to really feel it where you might be lacking. My recommendation is to use dumbells.Try off-loading squats (dumbell next to ear on shoulder), try off-load dead-lifts, and try off-load farmers walk. Keep posture straight and no leaning. After doing this for a couple weeks to a month, do a regular deadlift and I promise you, you'll see improvements.

    .I can honestly say that I have never heard of these techniques in training to get a bigger lift. If you did this for any extent of time your body would form terrible imbalances.

    What kind of imbalances are you talking about? These aren't for bigger lifts - that's kind of a side effect. The main point is to protect any kind of injury you might sustain for doing any main lift. If you want to go for a bigger lift, you will sustain lesser of an injury. You are working those muscle to keep a balance control. Though people have often did heavy lifts without doing any off loads, the off-loading part is mainly to help with your core, not your legs.

    #135497

    Fairy
    Guest

    Sounds like a great way to strengthen your core to me. Thanks CloudyBrain!

    #135498

    cloudybrain
    Participant

    Any time Fairy 🙂I've been doing these for about a year before finding out about the shockwave. In my first week of shockwave, all the exercises just came natural in posture and movement.I also updated my last post to include a video I found about someone doing turkish get ups; he did a great job at it. There are variations, where you don't switch during the stand, but the switch happens when you're on the floor. Again, as clarification, working your core doesn't mean a flatter belly, or bigger arms, it means supporting everything you do.

    #135499

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Okay, farmers walk it is 🙂I've noticed sometimes the hardest part of my gym workout is actually picking up the weights, walking to the rack and racking them 😉

    Good choice, try to do the suggestion I mentioned about off-loading it. It'll feel weird at first, but try doing weights that are appropriate. By having one side carry a weight 10-15 pounds heavier than the other, you'll start to really feel it where you might be lacking. My recommendation is to use dumbells.Try off-loading squats (dumbell next to ear on shoulder), try off-load dead-lifts, and try off-load farmers walk. Keep posture straight and no leaning. After doing this for a couple weeks to a month, do a regular deadlift and I promise you, you'll see improvements.

    .I can honestly say that I have never heard of these techniques in training to get a bigger lift. If you did this for any extent of time your body would form terrible imbalances.

    I think this would be a good idea to use as assistance to the actual lifts, but I think replacing the main lifts with this I think is a terrible idea.  I have never done what he described, but I have done one armed farmer's walks before and I thought it was decent for core strength, but I still think just lifting heavy gives you better results as far as core strength is concerned.I would imagine if you do the "offload" lifts, I would use a rather light weight because using a heavier weight will probably wreak havoc on your nervous system and would be rather dangerous.

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