Supplements and nausea?

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    bobbitt81
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    Wondering if this is a struggle for anyone else.I train in the morning, fasted, just black coffee.After I train, I make a shake: Trader Joe's coconut milk, 1 scoop of True Nutrition isolate/hydrolized blend. About 28g of creatine, 5 g leucine, 1 tbsp of MCT oil, and sometimes a banana, depending on how I'm feeling.I've been getting super nauseous after I do the shake, so I've been doing some Betaine HCL and pancreatic enzymes to help, and that doesn't seem to be doing a whole ton. Does anyone else struggle with this? Have any ideas?

    #164648

    .josh.
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    Wondering if this is a struggle for anyone else.I train in the morning, fasted, just black coffee.After I train, I make a shake: Trader Joe's coconut milk, 1 scoop of True Nutrition isolate/hydrolized blend. About 28g of creatine, 5 g leucine, 1 tbsp of MCT oil, and sometimes a banana, depending on how I'm feeling.I've been getting super nauseous after I do the shake, so I've been doing some Betaine HCL and pancreatic enzymes to help, and that doesn't seem to be doing a whole ton. Does anyone else struggle with this? Have any ideas?

    I'm not sure if this would create stomach issues, but 28 grams of creatine seems quite excessive... and I personally wouldn't be able to handle the fats (particularly from coconut milk) post-workout.

    #164649

    bobbitt81
    Member

    Feels like a lot to me too, though using Kiefer's calculation, it seems right. Maybe I cut that significantly for a while.I'm also not using canned coconut milk, it's the coconut milk "beverage" that comes in the carton, so not quite as high on the fats.

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    .josh.
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    Feels like a lot to me too, though using Kiefer's calculation, it seems right. Maybe I cut that significantly for a while.I'm also not using canned coconut milk, it's the coconut milk "beverage" that comes in the carton, so not quite as high on the fats.

    Yeah, that's not something I've bought into entirely... I know the stuff. What's the rationale for including it?

    #164651

    bobbitt81
    Member

    It tastes better than water. That's honestly about it. Maybe I should drop it and just mix with water and see what I get.

    #164652

    .josh.
    Guest

    It tastes better than water. That's honestly about it. Maybe I should drop it and just mix with water and see what I get.

    I'd give that a shot... unless you have some rancid protein, it should still be palatable.

    #164653

    bobbitt81
    Member

    I don't think it's the protein. If it is, True Nutrition and I need to have a battle.

    #164647

    Brandon D Christ
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    You don't have to take the creatine all at once.  Try taking half of it then and the other half later.I would try ditching the MCT oil too.

    #164646

    Brandon D Christ
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    Feels like a lot to me too, though using Kiefer's calculation, it seems right. Maybe I cut that significantly for a while.I'm also not using canned coconut milk, it's the coconut milk "beverage" that comes in the carton, so not quite as high on the fats.

    Yeah, that's not something I've bought into entirely... I know the stuff. What's the rationale for including it?

    For what it's worth, Charles Poliquin seems to think you need to take a lot more creatine than what most people do (the traditional 5 g/day).  He reasoning was the training programs used in studies are a lot less intense than what people do in real life.  Not that it proves anything, but it's another source pointing to high creatine consumption.Personall I appear to be stronger with this new creatine protocol, but only time will tell.

    #164654

    bobbitt81
    Member

    This was definitely better today. I changed multiple factors–cut the creatine in half, dropped the coconut milk, and the MCT oil. I think I was just doing too much in the shake. Can't isolate it to one factor yet, but at least I know it's not the protein!

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