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July 14, 2013 at 6:49 pm #9120
apisula2000MemberI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
July 14, 2013 at 9:06 pm #190836
DerekcervaParticipantfollow the book to get your recommended protein and fats pre workout and tweak from there, yes you can have a snack not sure why it would have carbs though? im not sure where you read that you should always stay below 30g for the first half of the day
July 15, 2013 at 6:17 pm #190837
John LaPlaca JrMemberI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
July 15, 2013 at 6:54 pm #190839
John LaPlaca JrMemberI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
You are fine. You don't need to add a snack in the afternoon, unless you want to. Personally I just eat lunch, I don't even have a pre-workout shake.
That is my daily routine not the original posters. Why do you not have the pre-workout shake? If fat loss is your primary goal would you cut it out? I like getting the extra MCT in at that point but if there's benefits to being in a semi-fasted state I would be willing to make the switch.
July 15, 2013 at 6:55 pm #190840
apisula2000MemberI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
That's pretty much what I thought. I do appreciate it. I assume you are DB and not SA correct?
July 15, 2013 at 6:57 pm #190841
John LaPlaca JrMemberI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
That's pretty much what I thought. I do appreciate it. I assume you are DB and not SA correct?
SA.
July 15, 2013 at 7:10 pm #190838
Brandon D ChristParticipantI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
You are fine. You don't need to add a snack in the afternoon, unless you want to. Personally I just eat lunch, I don't even have a pre-workout shake.
That is my daily routine not the original posters. Why do you not have the pre-workout shake? If fat loss is your primary goal would you cut it out? I like getting the extra MCT in at that point but if there's benefits to being in a semi-fasted state I would be willing to make the switch.
The pre-workout shake doesn't sit well with me. I take a intra workout shake, so I don't really need a pre-workout one anyway.
July 15, 2013 at 7:18 pm #190842
John LaPlaca JrMemberI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
You are fine. You don't need to add a snack in the afternoon, unless you want to. Personally I just eat lunch, I don't even have a pre-workout shake.
That is my daily routine not the original posters. Why do you not have the pre-workout shake? If fat loss is your primary goal would you cut it out? I like getting the extra MCT in at that point but if there's benefits to being in a semi-fasted state I would be willing to make the switch.
The pre-workout shake doesn't sit well with me. I take a intra workout shake, so I don't really need a pre-workout one anyway.
Do you think it would help more body fat reduction if I cut it out?
July 15, 2013 at 7:19 pm #190843
Brandon D ChristParticipantI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
You are fine. You don't need to add a snack in the afternoon, unless you want to. Personally I just eat lunch, I don't even have a pre-workout shake.
That is my daily routine not the original posters. Why do you not have the pre-workout shake? If fat loss is your primary goal would you cut it out? I like getting the extra MCT in at that point but if there's benefits to being in a semi-fasted state I would be willing to make the switch.
The pre-workout shake doesn't sit well with me. I take a intra workout shake, so I don't really need a pre-workout one anyway.
Do you think it would help more body fat reduction if I cut it out?
Doubtful. It is rather insignificant unless you are below 10% bodyfat.
July 15, 2013 at 7:37 pm #190844
John LaPlaca JrMemberI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
You are fine. You don't need to add a snack in the afternoon, unless you want to. Personally I just eat lunch, I don't even have a pre-workout shake.
That is my daily routine not the original posters. Why do you not have the pre-workout shake? If fat loss is your primary goal would you cut it out? I like getting the extra MCT in at that point but if there's benefits to being in a semi-fasted state I would be willing to make the switch.
The pre-workout shake doesn't sit well with me. I take a intra workout shake, so I don't really need a pre-workout one anyway.
Do you think it would help more body fat reduction if I cut it out?
Doubtful. It is rather insignificant unless you are below 10% bodyfat.
I'll keep it in mind when I get to that point. Thanks.
July 16, 2013 at 4:16 pm #190847
apisula2000MemberI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
That's pretty much what I thought. I do appreciate it. I assume you are DB and not SA correct?
SA.
Hmmm...well then I wonder if I am eating too little? My lunch is 1/2 of yours. I usually consume 8 oz of lean ground beef or chicken and 1-2 cups veggies (lettuce usually). I am trying to get to 180lbs lean. Sitting at 190 right now. Do you have the pre workout shake even on HIIT? Curious.
July 16, 2013 at 5:02 pm #190848
Brandon D ChristParticipantI am switching from early afternoon to evening, which according to Kiefer is the best time. My question is, according to the book I should shift my meals later starting from lunch. Additionally, should i be having a miday snack for staying lean or still stay below 30g carbs for the first half of day prior to workout? thanks.
I would follow your normal eating habits. I workout at 5:00pm-5:15pm and this is what I do...5:00am wake up5:30am black coffee(if I already feel hungry I might add kerry gold butter or mct oil)9:00am AM shake12:00am ULC meal(1lb of grass fed beef/1 cup of vegetables)4:30pm: preworkout shake(10 grams of whey, 10 grams of mct oil in ice coffee with 1 caffeine tablet)6:30pm PWO shake7:30pm BAckload #19:00pm Backload#210:00-11:00pm- Bed.
That's pretty much what I thought. I do appreciate it. I assume you are DB and not SA correct?
SA.
Hmmm...well then I wonder if I am eating too little? My lunch is 1/2 of yours. I usually consume 8 oz of lean ground beef or chicken and 1-2 cups veggies (lettuce usually). I am trying to get to 180lbs lean. Sitting at 190 right now. Do you have the pre workout shake even on HIIT? Curious.
I would increase your food intake pre-workout a bit. I think a pound of lean ground beef (90% lean) would be good. Check out my simplified chart for fat loss: http://athlete.io/forum/index.php?topic=8845.0
July 16, 2013 at 6:13 pm #190849
DerekcervaParticipanti would like to view this chart^^ but it says i am unable to
July 16, 2013 at 7:11 pm #190845
apisula2000Memberi would like to view this chart^^ but it says i am unable to
x1Even increase for only SA vs DB? Yeah, it says I can't view yours either.
July 16, 2013 at 7:24 pm #190846
GnomerParticipanti would like to view this chart^^ but it says i am unable to
x1Even increase for only SA vs DB? Yeah, it says I can't view yours either.
you need access to the members CBL forums to view it
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