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I don't know how to explain it, but I just can't seem to bend over and grab the barbell without my upper back rounding.I think the problem stems from having a pretty long torso/legs along with being overweight. Anyone else over 6ft experianced this and corrected it?
Maybe I'm ignorant, but you probably just lack upper back strength or coordination. I would recommend lowering the weight or switching to dumbbell rows and most important working on your dead lift form to strengthen your back.
I don't know how to explain it, but I just can't seem to bend over and grab the barbell without my upper back rounding.I think the problem stems from having a pretty long torso/legs along with being overweight. Anyone else over 6ft experianced this and corrected it?
Agree with Mike, I would ditch the exercise all together. In my opinion they are a horrible exercise, there is to much room for cheating, and you can hurt yourself. If you really want to do them, move to the smith machine.
Maybe I'm ignorant, but you probably just lack upper back strength or coordination. I would recommend lowering the weight or switching to dumbbell rows and most important working on your dead lift form to strengthen your back.
I'd agree on the lack of coordination. It isn't for lack of strength, I can do them with an empty barbell and I still round my back doing it.My deadlift form is honestly very good through warm ups and working sets (60kg to 85kg).
I don't know how to explain it, but I just can't seem to bend over and grab the barbell without my upper back rounding.I think the problem stems from having a pretty long torso/legs along with being overweight. Anyone else over 6ft experianced this and corrected it?
Agree with Mike, I would ditch the exercise all together. In my opinion they are a horrible exercise, there is to much room for cheating, and you can hurt yourself. If you really want to do them, move to the smith machine.
I agree with Peter, I have totally removed the standard BB row from my rotation and I've replaced it with Ghetto T-bar rows and Meadows rows, along with some heavy dead-stop DB rows sometimes and it made a huge difference. I just couldn't ever seem to properly activate my lats when doing a BB row.
I don't know how to explain it, but I just can't seem to bend over and grab the barbell without my upper back rounding.I think the problem stems from having a pretty long torso/legs along with being overweight. Anyone else over 6ft experianced this and corrected it?
Agree with Mike, I would ditch the exercise all together. In my opinion they are a horrible exercise, there is to much room for cheating, and you can hurt yourself. If you really want to do them, move to the smith machine.
I agree with Peter, I have totally removed the standard BB row from my rotation and I've replaced it with Ghetto T-bar rows and Meadows rows, along with some heavy dead-stop DB rows sometimes and it made a huge difference. I just couldn't ever seem to properly activate my lats when doing a BB row.
thats because most people are to stupid to realize its a primarily LAT exercise NOT a rhomboid exercise
Welp, deloaded back down to 40kg, took a wider stance and kept my shoulder blades pinned back when I grabbed the bar. I checked in the mirror and my back looks flat before starting the set. I'm gonna get a video next time to see how my back looks during the set.
Welp, deloaded back down to 40kg, took a wider stance and kept my shoulder blades pinned back when I grabbed the bar. I checked in the mirror and my back looks flat before starting the set. I'm gonna get a video next time to see how my back looks during the set.
Shoulder blades pinned back is what helped me.RB
Hamstring and glute strength may be a concern as well. Your hamstrings and glutes do some isometric work in a barbell row. Especially when the weight gets heavy. My advice is only do rows with a light weight (like one you can handle for 15 reps) and do a set of about 10 reps with them. Focus on keeping proper form and It wouldn't hurt to pause at the top. Rows are VERY important if you want a big deadlift. If you don't care about deadlifts and are just doing it for aesthetics, you may just want to skip the row and do one of exercises that allow you to get a very hard contraction easily like the one's the other guys mentioned. Also check out stiff arm pulldowns. Those are a favorite of mine.
I'm not a huge fan of this movement either. I also tend to opt for dumbell or t-bar rows. At times, however, I do want to incorporate them so I use the chest supported version. To my mind it allows you to isolate the lats far more effectively removing the stress on the glutes and lower back.Try it.
This is actually my favorite movement and the lift I am probably strongest on but it wasn't always that way. First try squeezing your shoulder blades together throughout the movement. I find its difficult to round the lower back when in this position also it shouldn't interfere with hitting the last the way you're supposed to. Secondly regardless of grip don't let the bar go below the bottom of the knee. This should keep you around the 45 degree mark when bent over. Hope this helps.
My old gym had a variation of the t-bar row where you'd lie face down on a 45 degree bench. This should be a reasonable solution.RB
My old gym had a variation of the t-bar row where you'd lie face down on a 45 degree bench. This should be a reasonable solution.RB
That sounds like chest supported rows.
I've been doing them on a smith machine, setting the pins about mid shin and letting each rep stop on the pins then driving the bar up to my belly. I get a lot more out of doing them like this than with a regular barbell.
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