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January 13, 2013 at 3:52 am #125864
Big_RParticipantthis is an exercise I see A lot of mistakes with. I think people just do it and hope somethimg grows because half of them use shitty form and pull the bar with their rear delts more towards the.chest and.wonder why.there back wont grow (not even Going TO mention the ridculous.back.angles).
January 13, 2013 at 1:36 pm #125866
RoadblockParticipantthis is an exercise I see A lot of mistakes with. I think people just do it and hope somethimg grows because half of them use shitty form and pull the bar with their rear delts more towards the.chest and.wonder why.there back wont grow (not even Going TO mention the ridculous.back.angles).
+1If you can't feel the target muscles working then you need to change something up. Doing any exercise completely wrong is like spinning your wheels in the mud. It is a good sign though that the OP had the common sense to at least ask for help. Many just continue blindly and hope that it works out some how.RB
January 13, 2013 at 3:26 pm #125867
Brandon D ChristParticipantthis is an exercise I see A lot of mistakes with. I think people just do it and hope somethimg grows because half of them use shitty form and pull the bar with their rear delts more towards the.chest and.wonder why.there back wont grow (not even Going TO mention the ridculous.back.angles).
+1If you can't feel the target muscles working then you need to change something up. Doing any exercise completely wrong is like spinning your wheels in the mud. It is a good sign though that the OP had the common sense to at least ask for help. Many just continue blindly and hope that it works out some how.RB
Yea that is a newb mistake. I did that when I started to workout. However, rowing to your chest is actually an excellent exercise for your upper back.
January 13, 2013 at 3:50 pm #125868
PhattyMemberthis is an exercise I see A lot of mistakes with. I think people just do it and hope somethimg grows because half of them use shitty form and pull the bar with their rear delts more towards the.chest and.wonder why.there back wont grow (not even Going TO mention the ridculous.back.angles).
+1If you can't feel the target muscles working then you need to change something up. Doing any exercise completely wrong is like spinning your wheels in the mud. It is a good sign though that the OP had the common sense to at least ask for help. Many just continue blindly and hope that it works out some how.RB
Which reminds me, I need to get a form video up for the knowledgeable folk on here to check for me.I really don't want to drop them from my workout, I'd rather practice now and perfect my form for the future.
January 13, 2013 at 4:47 pm #125865
RoadblockParticipantI can't seem to find the video that I watched before but this one is close.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKgRB
January 13, 2013 at 6:32 pm #125869
Brandon D ChristParticipantI will say this about bent over rows. In my opinion, it is a very similar exercise to the bench press in the sense that once you can handle a decent amount of weight (~200+ for reps) it stops becoming a muscle builder and more of a strength movement. Keep that in mind. I think heavy bent over rows are excellent as an assistance exercise for the deadlift and to a less event, the bench press, but I wouldn't use it for hypertrophy if you are at the advanced level.
January 13, 2013 at 6:37 pm #125870
Richard SchmittModeratorAfter viewing this video, I've been doing them way wrong. Angled Back and everything. Thanks for the video RB. Ibo, I'll keep that in mind when I think about using BB Rows. Thanks
January 13, 2013 at 6:42 pm #125871
BenjaminDMemberAfter viewing this video, I've been doing them way wrong. Angled Back and everything. Thanks for the video RB. Ibo, I'll keep that in mind when I think about using BB Rows. Thanks
The Pendlay row is just one variation. If you went and looked at a Yates row, you would think you were doing the Pendlay row incorrectly, make sense?Just go my feel, ya know?
January 13, 2013 at 6:52 pm #125872
Richard SchmittModeratorAh that makes sense…see when I do BB Rows I make sure I pull up to my midsection, bringing my elbows back. That I don't use my arms but my back.
January 13, 2013 at 8:35 pm #125873
RoadblockParticipantThe Pendlay row was set up to help lifters increase their deadlift. Yates rows are more geared towards hypertrophy.RB
January 14, 2013 at 2:39 am #125874
Gl;itch.eMemberThe Pendlay row was set up to help lifters increase their deadlift. Yates rows are more geared towards hypertrophy.RB
Indeed. And probably more so lats than anything else. Though no doubt the traps get involved too. I still think Pendlays are better for more midback focus and DB or 1 Arm machine/cables rows are better for lats than any Barbell Row. More stretch, more rom.
January 14, 2013 at 2:50 am #125875
BenjaminDMemberMy point is it's a fucking row- just do what feels right. Don't get paralyzed by the minutiae.
January 14, 2013 at 3:48 am #125876
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorMy point is it's a fucking row- just do what feels right. Don't get paralyzed by the minutiae.
+1About everything. People get to caught up by the minutiae and end up getting no where because of it.
January 14, 2013 at 10:52 pm #125877
PhattyMemberI can't seem to find the video that I watched before but this one is close.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKgRB
That has helped me understand the form a lot better.I've watched a lot of form videos and even read Starting Strength to get an understanding of the lifts I do.Actually seeing the lift being set up and done from different angles like helps me visualise the movement when I perform it myself.Thanks. I can finally start bumping the weight up again (been sticking to 40kg until I felt comfortable with it).
February 8, 2013 at 7:34 pm #125878
DeeGuestI can't seem to find the video that I watched before but this one is close.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKgRB
That has helped me understand the form a lot better.I've watched a lot of form videos and even read Starting Strength to get an understanding of the lifts I do.Actually seeing the lift being set up and done from different angles like helps me visualise the movement when I perform it myself.Thanks. I can finally start bumping the weight up again (been sticking to 40kg until I felt comfortable with it).
Coming to a deadstop at the bottom like that can help. If you arent comfortable lifting from the floor with your midsection that perpendicular to the ground, you can use some sort of platform or even the safety bars in the squat cage to drop the bar on with a more upright posture...something like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09h3FoU9Wo
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