Tips for keeping a straight back (bent-over barbell rows)?

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    Big_R
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    this is an exercise I see A lot of mistakes with.  I think people just do it and hope somethimg grows because half of them use shitty form and pull the bar with their rear delts more towards the.chest and.wonder why.there back wont grow (not even Going TO mention the ridculous.back.angles).

    #125866

    Roadblock
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    this is an exercise I see A lot of mistakes with.  I think people just do it and hope somethimg grows because half of them use shitty form and pull the bar with their rear delts more towards the.chest and.wonder why.there back wont grow (not even Going TO mention the ridculous.back.angles).

    +1If you can't feel the target muscles working then you need to change something up. Doing any exercise completely wrong is like spinning your wheels in the mud. It is a good sign though that the OP had the common sense to at least ask for help. Many just continue blindly and hope that it works out some how.RB

    #125867

    Brandon D Christ
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    this is an exercise I see A lot of mistakes with.  I think people just do it and hope somethimg grows because half of them use shitty form and pull the bar with their rear delts more towards the.chest and.wonder why.there back wont grow (not even Going TO mention the ridculous.back.angles).

    +1If you can't feel the target muscles working then you need to change something up. Doing any exercise completely wrong is like spinning your wheels in the mud. It is a good sign though that the OP had the common sense to at least ask for help. Many just continue blindly and hope that it works out some how.RB

    Yea that is a newb mistake.  I did that when I started to workout.  However, rowing to your chest is actually an excellent exercise for your upper back.

    #125868

    Phatty
    Member

    this is an exercise I see A lot of mistakes with.  I think people just do it and hope somethimg grows because half of them use shitty form and pull the bar with their rear delts more towards the.chest and.wonder why.there back wont grow (not even Going TO mention the ridculous.back.angles).

    +1If you can't feel the target muscles working then you need to change something up. Doing any exercise completely wrong is like spinning your wheels in the mud. It is a good sign though that the OP had the common sense to at least ask for help. Many just continue blindly and hope that it works out some how.RB

    Which reminds me, I need to get a form video up for the knowledgeable folk on here to check for me.I really don't want to drop them from my workout, I'd rather practice now and perfect my form for the future.

    #125865

    Roadblock
    Participant

    I can't seem to find the video that I watched before but this one is close.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKgRB

    #125869

    Brandon D Christ
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    I will say this about bent over rows.  In my opinion, it is a very similar exercise to the bench press in the sense that once you can handle a decent amount of weight (~200+ for reps) it stops becoming a muscle builder and more of a strength movement.  Keep that in mind.  I think heavy bent over rows are excellent as an assistance exercise for the deadlift and to a less event, the bench press, but I wouldn't use it for hypertrophy if you are at the advanced level.

    #125870

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    After viewing this video, I've been doing them way wrong. Angled Back and everything. Thanks for the video RB. Ibo, I'll keep that in mind when I think about using BB Rows. Thanks

    #125871

    BenjaminD
    Member

    After viewing this video, I've been doing them way wrong. Angled Back and everything. Thanks for the video RB. Ibo, I'll keep that in mind when I think about using BB Rows. Thanks

    The Pendlay row is just one variation. If you went and looked at a Yates row, you would think you were doing the Pendlay row incorrectly, make sense?Just go my feel, ya know?

    #125872

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Ah that makes sense…see when I do BB Rows I make sure I pull up to my midsection, bringing my elbows back. That I don't use my arms but my back.

    #125873

    Roadblock
    Participant

    The Pendlay row was set up to help lifters increase their deadlift. Yates rows are more geared towards hypertrophy.RB

    #125874

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    The Pendlay row was set up to help lifters increase their deadlift. Yates rows are more geared towards hypertrophy.RB

    Indeed. And probably more so lats than anything else. Though no doubt the traps get involved too. I still think Pendlays are better for more midback focus and DB or 1 Arm machine/cables rows are better for lats than any Barbell Row. More stretch, more rom.

    #125875

    BenjaminD
    Member

    My point is it's a fucking row- just do what feels right. Don't get paralyzed by the minutiae.

    #125876

    My point is it's a fucking row- just do what feels right. Don't get paralyzed by the minutiae.

    +1About everything. People get to caught up by the minutiae and end up getting no where because of it.

    #125877

    Phatty
    Member

    I can't seem to find the video that I watched before but this one is close.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKgRB

    That has helped me understand the form a lot better.I've watched a lot of form videos and even read Starting Strength to get an understanding of the lifts I do.Actually seeing the lift being set up and done from different angles like helps me visualise the movement when I perform it myself.Thanks. I can finally start bumping the weight up again (been sticking to 40kg until I felt comfortable with it).

    #125878

    Dee
    Guest

    I can't seem to find the video that I watched before but this one is close.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKgRB

    That has helped me understand the form a lot better.I've watched a lot of form videos and even read Starting Strength to get an understanding of the lifts I do.Actually seeing the lift being set up and done from different angles like helps me visualise the movement when I perform it myself.Thanks. I can finally start bumping the weight up again (been sticking to 40kg until I felt comfortable with it).

    Coming to a deadstop at the bottom like that can help. If you arent comfortable lifting from the floor with your midsection that perpendicular to the ground, you can use some sort of platform or even the safety bars in the squat cage to drop the bar on with a more upright posture...something like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09h3FoU9Wo

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