Toxic Sugar?

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    Gnomer
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    I think its fair to say we've gone slightly off topic. Theres nothing I can think of that would make me believe that a efficient fuel source such as sucrose taken in proper context could be viewed as bad. Every ill I am seeing you attribute to it is either a. over consumption of total calories. b. displacement of nutrients/disregard for proper nutrition or c. speculation based on the course of human evolution i.e "we never ate sugar therefore is has to be bad"

    if you read Pure White and Deadly, Sugar Blues, Sugar Nation, Sugar Shock!, Fat Chance you may think a bit different on the subject but maybe not you seem pretty dead set on it..

    Correct. And for the same reason I wont read any of the multitude of books that espouse how bad fat is for you. Or how a vegetarian diet is the only thing that makes sense. Please just condense it succintly if you believe it to be anything but the 3 points I just outlined.

    not sure how you can answer B) as the concept of proper nutrition is obviously so diverse and no one really can agree on what proper nutrition is.. also not sure how A makes much sense since I'm not sure how you can measure what's considered an over consumption in calories in one person to the next accurately, also wanted to add over consumption of foods as been shown to be a symptom of obesity and diabetes but not the cause.People will over eat obsessively because their hormones are unable to send them the correct signals on when they are full and this all has a lot to do with the types of food they are eating... so the most logical one to look at is C and how our genetics were evolved over our history and how foods effect our cells and what it all does to our hormones and our body.

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    Tracy Jarchow
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    Just to throw another idea out. The wheat that is eaten these days is a completely different grain than what was eaten for the first million years. Today there are about 10,000+ variations of the wheat grain from the original two or three. Every single modification that has been made to wheat has been for farming (Kansas farm boy here) to create a better yield, a stronger stalk, resistance to drought and bugs, etc. and a whole host of other positive farming reasons but NOT a single modification has been for better nutrition for humans.Unfortunately, that has COMPLETELY changed the nutritional content of the wheat grain for the worse. The wheat that is grown today is a SUPER carb and has some horrible metabolic results that are hurting many folks in many different ways.A couple of pretty interesting resources are:http://www.amazon.com/dp/1609614798http://www.amazon.com/Grain-Brain-Surprising-Sugar-Your-Killers/dp/1619698463Sugar certainly has some interesting positives and negatives but I'm not aware of one single positive thing about today's versions of wheat from a nutritional standpoint. However, wheat has had an incredible economic benefit...Take a nickel worth of wheat and turn it into a $5 loaf of bread.

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    Gnomer
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    Just to throw another idea out. The wheat that is eaten these days is a completely different grain than what was eaten for the first million years. Today there are about 10,000+ variations of the wheat grain from the original two or three. Every single modification that has been made to wheat has been for farming (Kansas farm boy here) to create better yield and resistance to drought and bugs and a whole host of other things and NOT a single one has been for better nutrition.Unfortunately, that has COMPLETELY changed the nutritional content of the wheat grain for the worse. The wheat that is grown today is a SUPER carb and has some horrible metabolic results that are hurting many folks in many different ways.A couple of pretty interesting resources are:http://www.amazon.com/dp/1609614798http://www.amazon.com/Grain-Brain-Surprising-Sugar-Your-Killers/dp/1619698463Sugar certainly has some interesting positives and minuses but I'm not aware of one single positive thing about wheat from a nutritional standpoint. Wheat has has an incredible economic benefit...Take a nickel worth of wheat and turn it into a $5 loaf of bread.

    just watched the documentary The Future of Food.. goes over how the GMO process started and the effects of it all.. some scary stuff.. it's horrible what happened to farmers when they decided companies could patent GMO seeds. Basically if a farmers crop got contaminated by a GMO seed(could of come from anywhere, weather, a bird) the owner of the patent could sue the farmer a make him destroy all his crops because their GMO seed got into their crop even though the farmer didn't want it there

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