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Critiques welcome.I have been lifting twice daily. To some this may or may not settle, we all have similar or different goals.I have to scream BS on all the overtraining crap I had ever read or heard of before. There is no such thing as overtraining, get your lazy ass in the gym. Period.After a few weeks in I don't think I can go back to a single workout per day.My morning workouts are at 8:45 AM and last exactly one hour. I workout fasted in the AM with only a black cup of coffee.My PM workouts are at 7:30 PM and follow a Calorie Free intake of some sort of energy drink, Monster or whatever. My PM training may last 1 hour as well.I workout 6 days per week with Sunday as a rest day off.I have only gotten great results from this route and I decided to share it.I do alternate some of my sets but I do as followed below.I work with 1 minute of maximum rest between sets.Mondays and Thursdays are upper body days.I will work my chest in the AM because the gym will be full of chest workers PM each of those days.I work my back at night. Tuesdays and Fridays are leg days.I squat mornings and come back at night just to dead lift for 30-45 minutes.Wednesdays and Saturdays will include OHP (shoulders) AM and a nasty arm workout at night.I encourage any one to try twice a day training, my vascularity is insane, I'm always pumped and strength is only increasing. I hit a few PRs last week for myself.I am definitely stronger at night, I may to swap AM for PM workouts soon to change things around and experiment. Though I don't need to because the above described it working wonders. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
What workout's do you backload after?Also, what's in your morning PWO shake?
I simply have a PWO shake with around 20G carbs and 40G protein after AM training.Lunch comes at 2:00 PM and consists of Meat and Fat. Cheese and some diet coke.I carb backload after PM training. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Ok. Glad you're getting good results, but lets be clear. Overtraining is very real.
To some it may be very real, to the weak.I happen to know several beasts, let me repeat BEASTS who get their results from overtraining.I also know steroid users whom only require several lifts per week.I was a fat boy in the past, I learned this, the more I trained and the higher the intensity and frequency the better the results. Whenever I slowed down in frequency I got weak. I wonder why the animals used to overtrain in the old days when there weren't so many articles and gurus who knew it all. I think Kiefer has an excellent set of documents and protocols to follow. I currently follow his CBL protocol. Which in fact has taught me how to properly eat for my own goals.I said the overtraining may not settle for everyone.Funny I stumbled on some amazing clips on YouTube featuring CT Fletcher, I was searching for overtraining and I'm glad I found his videos. I must say they are extremely entertaining and can teach you and me a thing or two. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
After a few sessions your body will recover much quicker thus allowing you to train more frequent.Your muscles in other words will recover in less time. Assuming your nutrition is in check. Assuming your sleep is in as we'll.I have read ample amounts of overtraining media, it just does not add up. Specially when you see every animal over trains.I repeat, this may differ as your goals may be different.I don't encourage any amateur or new lifter to overtrain as it may not be a good idea. There is a lot to learn in this sport and everybody is different.But, If you have been lifting for a good solid amount of time, there should be no overtraining for you. There sure is under training, and more of "how come I'm not getting stronger nor bigger?"I see and hear it every single day. Everyone wants to see results now, 9 out of 10 at the commercial gym don't even brake a sweat... How can you not sweat while doing some vigorous lifting? How? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
I do agree that overtraining is good and beneficial for some people but it will catch up to you, it's the not muscles that need the rest as much as the central nervous system needs it. The guys in the old days…if we're talking about Arnold and that crew were also on 26 week cycles where their bodies could handle the work and volume for great periods and recover 25x faster than the regular fitness advocate (25 is exaggeration of course lol). But hell yeah glad it's working for you! Keep up the work!
I train pretty close to 20 hours a week on CN, just saying. Over the years I have built up my work capacity to the point that the only thing that limits how much I can train is my work schedule.
I think you may be using overtraining differently than the scientific definition. True overtraining is a systemic disruption from chronic training. It has very serious symptoms and takes months to recover from. I do agree that periods of overreaching can be beneficial.
I do agree that overtraining is good and beneficial for some people but it will catch up to you, it's the muscles that need the rest is more of the central nervous system that need it. The guys in the old days if we're talking about Arnold and that crew were also in 26 week cycles where their bodies could handle the work and volume for great periods. But hell yeah glad it's working for you! Keep up the work!
You are right.Anything in real excess is not good.The key is to determine what is excess for you.People ask me how the hell I have my calves.Simple, I used to work them everyday. I was obsessed with having massive legs. I was young and stupid with very little knowledge but wait. Look at my calves. Genetics? Who knows, all I know is they look better than any other muscle in my body.I recently discovered the benefits of real serious squatting a few months back. The results are in. Same goes for dead lifting. I had never built such a strong mid section, regardless of how much fat I have there. It's a freaking hard solid wall. Front and back I can sustain just about any hit without feeling a thing.I used to do countless crunches and even have ab sessions. Pointless. I never got any results from any of those stupid different ab workouts. Yeah my abs got stronger and I was able to do more crunches every time but real results? None.In a few months of squatting and dead lifting my body has completely changed. I can't believe I was so skeptical and stupid in the past. I would overpass anything that had to do with squatting or dead lifting. I simple used to say "I don't compete". WTF? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
I train pretty close to 20 hours a week on CN, just saying. Over the years I have built up my work capacity to the point that the only thing that limits how much I can train is my work schedule.
Same here. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
I think you may be using overtraining differently than the scientific definition. True overtraining is a systemic disruption from chronic training. It has very serious symptoms and takes months to recover from. I do agree that periods of overreaching can be beneficial.
The term "overtraining" is simply overrated today.You tell anyone you train hard, and what is hard work to you is overtraining to them.Everyone wants to get results but no one wants to work hard. Hence why everyone is always looking for the easy way out.Every time I squat or dead lift there is some sort of know it all that walks up to give me advice. The best I hear sometimes regards to wearing a belt, other than that there is no such good advice coming from your typical "instructor or personal trainer". Any true animal will tell you go hard or go home. It's stupid simple, you will get results depending on the work you put in, goes for your training, nutrition, and quality of sleep. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
+1 Omg I hate it when people tell me to where a belt, I'm like no.... I have core muscles and I breath correctly I really don't need a belt and If I do I probably shouldn't be lifting that weight, cause I most likely won't have good form lol.
Just my two cents about being bothered by PTs and bros in the gym.Be more flamboyant, and nobody will ever come talk to you cept to tell you how batshit crazy you are, in a good way.
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