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March 11, 2013 at 6:58 pm #157919
ipcheckGuestheres a great video by layne norton on overtraining. http://www.biolayne.com/uncategorized/biolayne-video-log-3-overtraining/
Great video.I love my training schedule.I had an important interview this morning and could not do my chest pressing.I will be working Chest and Back tonight, can't wait for the 2 hour session.
March 11, 2013 at 7:31 pm #157920
PhattyMemberHonestly, I admire your dedication.You put in the time and effort and it clearly pays off.CT Fletcher seems like a great guy. I stumbled on to a few videos of him in January and found them very motivational. I'm actually watching some now to get me in the mood for some heavy lifting (relative to my own strength).I might copy you and rip the audio from the videos on youtube to listen to while training.
March 11, 2013 at 7:41 pm #157921
ipcheckGuest@ipcheck,Do you find you have to be more moderate with your backloads to not gain bodyfat since you have 6 of them a week?Also, if overtraining isnt a thing, why the off day on sunday?Also, why not do 2 hours in the gym instead of two one hour sessons in the gym? Seems like it would save on travel time and shower time... again, if there is no overtraining.
I dont watch my backloads, I just train hard.Sunday is my only day off, I also work 6 days per week.I spend my Sunday with family doing other things, you need to have some time for your woman, or else...I have my week split into 6 days which allow me to work each muscle group twice a week.I backload 7 times a week. 🙂 I train 6 days soooo, on Sunday night I have a light backload for Monday's training.I have a crazy work schedule and a family.I cannot go two hours in the morning because I have to start work at a certain time, so I only have 1 hour to train before I must go to work.I cannot leave work at 7 PM and train until 9:30... I would literary have no life and very little time to get home to my woman, cook, eat, etc...I shower 2-3 times a day, not a big deal.
March 11, 2013 at 8:01 pm #157922
ipcheckGuestHonestly, I admire your dedication.You put in the time and effort and it clearly pays off.CT Fletcher seems like a great guy. I stumbled on to a few videos of him in January and found them very motivational. I'm actually watching some now to get me in the mood for some heavy lifting (relative to my own strength).I might copy you and rip the audio from the videos on youtube to listen to while training.
CT Fletcher is what I call reality, its very difficult to find an honest person with real talk.Most "men" are afraid to say what they think because they fear not to fit in or simply be different.Fletcher doesn't give a fuck about you or me. LOLI'm the same way, so I kind of find the videos very appealing.In this game, you get what you put in. I just try to put in as much as possible.Nutrition plays a big role in our results, the biggest role.I'm not a nutritionist nor any kind of know it all, I have tried every simple other thing in the past, everything he said and she said, everything the magazines tell you, the gurus, the trainers..... Internet articles, you name it. Nothing ever worked for me.I did Carbnite for a while not knowing the book ever existed, I did something like that in my own way.I lost plenty fo FAT, yes and strength too, and size, and I was stressed most of the time.I need CARBS, <~~~ FINAL! 😮CARB BACK LOADING Worked for me, it has open doors.I bought the book without the intention to even try it.After reading it several times and understanding things sort of, I was sold.I believed in every word I was told and have been back loading since then.
March 11, 2013 at 8:14 pm #157923
Brandon D ChristParticipantOvertraining can occur, but a lot of people don't realize how much you can handle because they never push themselves to the limit.I personally lift heavy 5 days a week and I am recovering fine. Some people might not be able to do that, but I can.I do think that you pretty much do all the non-barbell exercises you want because they really don't stress your nervous system much. Just give your muscles 36 hours to recover. Point is, only you know what's too much. Don't let anyone tell you that you are doing too much if you are getting good results.
March 12, 2013 at 2:43 pm #157924
ipcheckGuestMust watch and listen to this mans words. EPIChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8_8phD7AwM
March 12, 2013 at 2:45 pm #157925
ipcheckGuestMust watch how shoulders are addressed.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvj5XYE2lwQ
March 12, 2013 at 2:47 pm #157926
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March 13, 2013 at 6:55 am #157927
Professor.VikingGuestYa know, I thougt to myself, “Guys like ipcheck dont need much recovery… Good for them. But he is likely a genetic freak. For other people, overtraining may very well be a presistant problem.”Then I thought to myself, "Wait... Why am I assuming I'm not a genetic freak? I havent tested my limits to see how far I can push them. Perhaps I am in the top 1% of potential. Why do people always thing they are one of the ones who cant? Why not start off with the assumption you can?"So until my body conclusively proves otherwise, I am the freak. I have the recovery of Wolveriene and the spirit of Thor waiting to mold me to a hulk.I think there are two types of lifters. I want to be one of the types who acts like he is a genetic freak.And even if I am not, epigenetics provides the framework that allows an iron will to trump all.You never know what your limits are until you test them. So until I find them, I will assume I have none.
March 13, 2013 at 7:31 am #157928
thestiffmeisterParticipantYa know, I thougt to myself, "Guys like ipcheck dont need much recovery... Good for them. But he is likely a genetic freak. For other people, overtraining may very well be a presistant problem."Then I thought to myself, "Wait... Why am I assuming I'm not a genetic freak? I havent tested my limits to see how far I can push them. Perhaps I am in the top 1% of potential. Why do people always thing they are one of the ones who cant? Why not start off with the assumption you can?"So until my body conclusively proves otherwise, I am the freak. I have the recovery of Wolveriene and the spirit of Thor waiting to mold me to a hulk.I think there are two types of lifters. I want to be one of the types who acts like he is a genetic freak.And even if I am not, epigenetics provides the framework that allows an iron will to trump all.You never know what your limits are until you test them. So until I find them, I will assume I have none.
Congratulations, you have arrived.Second guessing yourself leads to nowhere. Don't let anyone other than yourself tell you what you can and cannot do.
March 13, 2013 at 12:18 pm #157929
ipcheckGuestYa know, I thougt to myself, "Guys like ipcheck dont need much recovery... Good for them. But he is likely a genetic freak. For other people, overtraining may very well be a presistant problem."Then I thought to myself, "Wait... Why am I assuming I'm not a genetic freak? I havent tested my limits to see how far I can push them. Perhaps I am in the top 1% of potential. Why do people always thing they are one of the ones who cant? Why not start off with the assumption you can?"So until my body conclusively proves otherwise, I am the freak. I have the recovery of Wolveriene and the spirit of Thor waiting to mold me to a hulk.I think there are two types of lifters. I want to be one of the types who acts like he is a genetic freak.And even if I am not, epigenetics provides the framework that allows an iron will to trump all.You never know what your limits are until you test them. So until I find them, I will assume I have none.
Get to work, beat yourself. Work your ass of.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
March 13, 2013 at 12:58 pm #157930
Tracer-ActualGuestI do not want to write this to scare anyone, or indeed preach anything… however I need to state my comments for anyone reading thinking that 'Over-Training' is a myth.Being in the Military and a Combat Fitness Leader I have actually suffered from Overtraining (the actual, scientific definition of such an event).Let me put it in perspective. I have done over a week with no food and sleep, carrying heavy arse shit wearing armour, webbing and weapons yet was still not overtrained - so believe me when I say I understand how much the body can take...That being said, I have been over-trained (after my course learning to be a Combat Fitness Leader) and it took Months to recover from. It was the single worst period of my life. Walking was an extreme effort, all I wanted to do was sit and sleep. Horrendous. So I guess I just want to pass on that it can happen - and you need to understand your body and how far it can go. The way you do this is by pushing the boundries, but piece by piece and not in a giant rush. Push the boundry, let your body adjust, then make another push and see how you look-feel-and perform (to borrow Robb Wolf's expression).Just my 2 cents - take it or leave it.Peace Amigos.
March 13, 2013 at 1:10 pm #157931
.josh.GuestI do not want to write this to scare anyone, or indeed preach anything... however I need to state my comments for anyone reading thinking that 'Over-Training' is a myth.Being in the Military and a Combat Fitness Leader I have actually suffered from Overtraining (the actual, scientific definition of such an event).Let me put it in perspective. I have done over a week with no food and sleep, carrying heavy arse shit wearing armour, webbing and weapons yet was still not overtrained - so believe me when I say I understand how much the body can take...That being said, I have been over-trained (after my course learning to be a Combat Fitness Leader) and it took Months to recover from. It was the single worst period of my life. Walking was an extreme effort, all I wanted to do was sit and sleep. Horrendous. So I guess I just want to pass on that it can happen - and you need to understand your body and how far it can go. The way you do this is by pushing the boundries, but piece by piece and not in a giant rush. Push the boundry, let your body adjust, then make another push and see how you look-feel-and perform (to borrow Robb Wolf's expression).Just my 2 cents - take it or leave it.Peace Amigos.
Excellent post.
March 13, 2013 at 1:24 pm #157932
thestiffmeisterParticipantHow did you reach that point? What kind of training and how frequent was it?I myself reached the point where I was burned out, and while I had to sleep 12 hours a day minimum, I could still train, though not at full intensity. I did not get weak as a kitten like most people report though, in fact my lifts did not go down at all, I could just not function in everyday activities.I'm not denying it exists, but I personally think it takes a tremendous amount of willpower and dedication to overtrain, because most people will reach a point where they are sore and not feeling too great, and they will skip the gym that day, go easy or whatever before they can do enough damage. Often times what people think is overtraining is just a lack of conditioning, hence why it's good to add a little bit at a time. Most people are sedentary as hell outside the gym, so I will never tell someone to train less if they have serious goals or just enjoy training. Why limit yourself?
March 13, 2013 at 2:03 pm #157933
.josh.GuestSome more food for thought… http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2013/03/base-building-part-8-consistency-trumps.htmlI don't think this necessarily means two-a-days can't be incorporated, but you really need to get to know your body and what it can handle. Gradually increasing volume/intensity will probably serve you better in the long run rather than assuming you're the type who can go balls-out 24/7, and going to failure on a daily basis.We each have our own priorities, and only we can decide what's best for us. For me, I'd prefer to make progress year-round and remain consistent, rather than go fucking insane and incessantly lift my 1RM's and go to failure (as much fun as those workouts can be).
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