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Hello,I'm not trying to start a debate here, i'm just concerned about this recent study done by USC:http://news.usc.edu/#!/article/59199/meat-and-cheese-may-be-as-bad-for-you-as-smoking/We get all sorts of info nowadays, and it's hard to know what is fact, and what is fiction. Especially to someone who doesn't have a PHD. Does this information seem to conflict with Keifer? or are there details here i'm not understanding?FWIW: been on Carbnite for about 6 months now, and i'm very happy with it 🙂Thanks!
i haven't had a chance to watch this yet but jerry ward did a video on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCVfzjd9iJY&list=UUEQumzzbW2mrcMxKwEo7diw&feature=c4-overviewoh and as far as conflicting information.. take any single thing about exercise and nutrition and you will find conflicting scientific informationyou also got to consider source of supply.. my guess is most the people they used were eating diets high in commercially raised/fed slaughter housed animals fed horrible diets full of grains and pumped full of hormones..
http://download.cell.com/cell-metabolism/pdf/PIIS155041311400062X.pdf?intermediate=trueThat is a link to the full study. While they did find some correlation, the nutrition data they had was a 24 hr sample (apparently reflective of normal diet though) and then they compared it to causes of death over a 18 year period. This is a pretty big gap to extend one day of food intake to up to 18 years. The considerations were only fat, protein, carbs and was protein animal or plant based. This leaves out a lot of information...if I am eating organic chicken thighs vs. mcdonalds chicken nuggets there is a huge difference. Processed vs. quality of food sources is always important. If you carb sources are brown rice vs. fried potatoes again a big difference. There is a lot of information missing to just assume that any type of high protein diet leads to increased mortality rates.It is worth mentioning that upon diagnosis of cancer the diet is always recommended to be changed to a low protein one. As mentioned in the mouse studies protein/IGF-1 cause cell growth which, in the case of a cancer cell, is not good. If participants kept up a high protein intake and had a malignent cancer they didn't know about then that would be a guarenteed recipe for increased mortality rate. If you had malignent cancer you didn't know about and at low protein the cancer cells would not grow as much so you would have a better chance of beating it before it progresses a lot. The 18 year gap is tough to say that only high protein contributed to death.I am not a huge fan of the way they represented their statistical analysis. Out of 6381 people only 437 ate the low protein diet....that is 6.85% of people they surveyed which is a tiny sample size when compared to the moderate/high protein.
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