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maybe this will get more to switch over from CNS to CBL 🙂
Id certainly hope so! stupid low carb diets! LOL!
maybe this will get more to switch over from CNS to CBL 🙂
Id certainly hope so! stupid low carb diets! LOL!
they have their uses.. i just don't think weight loss is one of them 😛
http://bjjcaveman.com/2014/05/16/carb-back-loading-cholesterol/http://bjjcaveman.com/2014/05/12/carb-back-loading-thyroid-hormone/
Newbie here. Thanks for sharing your information. Very appreciated.Looked at your log before and it seemed you were never deep or quickly into ketosis. I had similar issue and saw a Kiefer tweet saying that folks not deep in should look at their liver.I found the following link. Didn't seem too science based, but I was willing to try.http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/liver_let_dieSeems to me that I had some Omega 6 that was tying up my liver. Eliminated that and my ketosis happens much more quickly and is more deep now. Shocked at how I can have carbs that are very transient in my system. Before they would have knocked me out out for days.Ketosis doesn't equal weight loss, I know... but ... seems to be correlated.I am a newbie, so anyone feel free to correct me if I am out of bounds.Cheers and thanks again.
http://bjjcaveman.com/2014/05/16/carb-back-loading-cholesterol/http://bjjcaveman.com/2014/05/12/carb-back-loading-thyroid-hormone/
Newbie here. Thanks for sharing your information. Very appreciated.Looked at your log before and it seemed you were never deep or quickly into ketosis. I had similar issue and saw a Kiefer tweet saying that folks not deep in should look at their liver.I found the following link. Didn't seem too science based, but I was willing to try.http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/liver_let_dieSeems to me that I had some Omega 6 that was tying up my liver. Eliminated that and my ketosis happens much more quickly and is more deep now. Shocked at how I can have carbs that are very transient in my system. Before they would have knocked me out out for days.Ketosis doesn't equal weight loss, I know... but ... seems to be correlated.I am a newbie, so anyone feel free to correct me if I am out of bounds.Cheers and thanks again.
PUFAs. The real culprits! The problem gets more murky when you realise that a history of high PUFA intake would mean a lot of your stored body fat is heavily laden with the unsaturated fat and that every time its liberated it works the same as dietary PUFA to lower metabolic rate and "gum up the works". This will make any fatloss pretty hard going and contrary to popular opinion not a very healthy endeavour. The randle cycle (while not actually a cycle) describes how high fatty acids in the blood take preference over glucose. Having metabolically slowing and stress inducing (raising the FFA pool higher) PUFAs puts a damper on the bodies ability to use and handle glucose efficiently. It essentially hangs around unused because the body is trying to deal with an onslaught of fatty acids first. Once you can lower that you can use the glucose as it should be. Saturated fats are definitely a better choice for those on ketogenic diets for this reason. They actually show benefits to metabolism.
PUFAs. The real culprits! The problem gets more murky when you realise that a history of high PUFA intake would mean a lot of your stored body fat is heavily laden with the unsaturated fat and that every time its liberated it works the same as dietary PUFA to lower metabolic rate and “gum up the works”. This will make any fatloss pretty hard going and contrary to popular opinion not a very healthy endeavour.The randle cycle (while not actually a cycle) describes how high fatty acids in the blood take preference over glucose. Having metabolically slowing and stress inducing (raising the FFA pool higher) PUFAs puts a damper on the bodies ability to use and handle glucose efficiently. It essentially hangs around unused because the body is trying to deal with an onslaught of fatty acids first. Once you can lower that you can use the glucose as it should be. Saturated fats are definitely a better choice for those on ketogenic diets for this reason. They actually show benefits to metabolism.
Thats like handing a sharp knife to a small child ; (So it seems that my fat stores may put me in a perpetual state of PUFA. This will mean that I will find it hard to increase my metabolic rate (check) (understand).Been happy with the fatloss, though in retrospect it is probably because my workouts don't come close to cover my backloads... my CBL workout sessions while less intense than my youthful sessions, are 3x total body per week. If I workout less, then my caloric deficits are going to be diet alone then my depressed metabolic rate. Then I probably won't be as happy with my progress. Am I on the right track?When you say less healthy endeavour, thats because the fats coursing through my system are unstable PUFAs and likely to lead to oxidization? May be why LDLs increase for some folks? Not sure I have a choice but to push through the fat as fast as possible, maybe increasing my anti-oxidants (glutathione, traditional dietary foods). Am I on the right track? Are there other things I should do?Think I understand most other things you put out there. Saturated fats pump up the metabolism, though between the PUFA from fat cells and saturated fat, my LDLs will remain high while losing fat. Antioxidants and pushing through the fat as fast as possible seem to be the key. Gonna have to ramp up my workout intensity. Thanks. Really challenge my understanding. Appreciate it alot.
PUFAs. The real culprits! The problem gets more murky when you realise that a history of high PUFA intake would mean a lot of your stored body fat is heavily laden with the unsaturated fat and that every time its liberated it works the same as dietary PUFA to lower metabolic rate and "gum up the works". This will make any fatloss pretty hard going and contrary to popular opinion not a very healthy endeavour.The randle cycle (while not actually a cycle) describes how high fatty acids in the blood take preference over glucose. Having metabolically slowing and stress inducing (raising the FFA pool higher) PUFAs puts a damper on the bodies ability to use and handle glucose efficiently. It essentially hangs around unused because the body is trying to deal with an onslaught of fatty acids first. Once you can lower that you can use the glucose as it should be. Saturated fats are definitely a better choice for those on ketogenic diets for this reason. They actually show benefits to metabolism.
Thats like handing a sharp knife to a small child ; (So it seems that my fat stores may put me in a perpetual state of PUFA. This will mean that I will find it hard to increase my metabolic rate (check) (understand).Been happy with the fatloss, though in retrospect it is probably because my workouts don't come close to cover my backloads... my CBL workout sessions while less intense than my youthful sessions, are 3x total body per week. If I workout less, then my caloric deficits are going to be diet alone then my depressed metabolic rate. Then I probably won't be as happy with my progress. Am I on the right track?When you say less healthy endeavour, thats because the fats coursing through my system are unstable PUFAs and likely to lead to oxidization? May be why LDLs increase for some folks? Not sure I have a choice but to push through the fat as fast as possible, maybe increasing my anti-oxidants (glutathione, traditional dietary foods). Am I on the right track? Are there other things I should do?Think I understand most other things you put out there. Saturated fats pump up the metabolism, though between the PUFA from fat cells and saturated fat, my LDLs will remain high while losing fat. Antioxidants and pushing through the fat as fast as possible seem to be the key. Gonna have to ramp up my workout intensity. Thanks. Really challenge my understanding. Appreciate it alot.
First off I wouldn't be disheartened by all this. Most of it can be mitigated by simply avoiding additional PUFA in the diet (fishoil, nuts, seeds, vegetable oils) and by emphasising good saturated fats (butter, lamb and beef, coconut oil, cream etc). Saturated fats as you've mentioned are actually very pro-thyroid and metabolism. Making sure to get a little of those at each meal will help keep things ticking along and suppress any potential issue from burning stored PUFAs. As far as fatloss being "less than healthy" this basically comes down to how fat tissue stores toxins. The faster you lose the fat the more burden you place on your body to detoxify any stored toxins. Slow and steady is a far safer approach. Doing what you can to support the liver is important. So avoiding long stretches of low carbs (imo) is very important in supporting the livers ability for detoxification.
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