What is considered training?

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    masZUL
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    So we know that after training your body in essence flips a switch and begins using calories for building muscle to the highest extent possible… but at what point does that “switch” get flipped?  Or, in other words, what does your body consider training?In the book the 4-hour body (I know a lot of you hate Tim Ferriss... this isn't about him specifically) it is suggested that 30-50 push ups or squats prior to eating is enough but that doesn't seem like much to me.  Does anyone know of any real data on this subject?

    #86162

    pshannon
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    Ahh Tim Ferris. Maybe 50 squats with your body weight on the bar, but just doing body weight squats can not activate Glute 4 or 12. There isnt enough of a load to activate the response. Did you order the 4 hour chef yet?

    #86163

    Brandon D Christ
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    All exercise actually activates GLUT4.  What activates GLUT4 to the extent that makes CBL work is heavy muscular contractions, which would be doing exercises in the 12 reps or less range.  Go to the CBL book and check out Kiefer's references if you want more info.

    #86164

    Caino
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    i think that gets a lot of people, weather or not their workout is worthy of a backload lol

    #86165

    masZUL
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    Did you order the 4 hour chef yet?

    i didn't.... not sure if I will.  then again I love his writing style so I'm sure I'll grab it at some point.

    #86166

    Brandon D Christ
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    i think that gets a lot of people, weather or not their workout is worthy of a backload lol

    I don't understand why.  If you lifted weights then it is worthy of a backload, if you didn't then no.

    #86167

    Richard Schmitt
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    i think that gets a lot of people, weather or not their workout is worthy of a backload lol

    I don't understand why.  If you lifted weights then it is worthy of a backload, if you didn't then no.

    Yeah, the book does explain what is considered a backload or not. Cleaning the house or what not doesn't rate a backload. Anything from 8-12 reps with maybe 3-5 sets almost to failure (I'd I recall correctly) is enough to transport tGLUT receptors to rate a backload. I don't know I could be wrong.

    #86168

    Jurminator
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    This is the Main Question im left with as well and not clear from the book  :).I can imagine the volume, intensity and body part selection of the training determine the level of glut activation?Is this activation really a 'switch' in the sense that once a certain volume x intensity is reached, the full backload window opens to the same extent as after a shorter session?Very relevant for me as i want to benefit from Cbl as well on days that i can only do (or need to do) very very short training sessions. Heavy but Super short, say just 1 set.

    #86169

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Listen to the #15 Biojacked Podcast. DH Kiefer interviewed John Meadows and this question was specifically answered.

    #86170

    Roadblock
    Participant

    Stupid question, but is there a compendium of these podcasts for quick reference or do you need to search for them one at a time?RB

    #86171

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Stupid question, but is there a compendium of these podcasts for quick reference or do you need to search for them one at a time?RB

    No question is a stupid one, just one not asked. The DH Podcast thread has some where you can click on the link. Soundcloud.com has the majority. If anything I can email them to you if you can't find any. I downloaded all of them. There is #24 I believe.

    #86172

    Caino
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    I would go by how he has done his DH hardcore and gauge your exersizes of that to see if your in the right ballpark, in saying that though, thats a pretty hardcore program

    #86173

    sckiely
    Participant

    I get stumped by people not understanding how to train appropriately? Go to gym, lift some weights, make sure you can't do more than 12 reps with a weight (if you can do more reps then go heavier) do a few sets of a few exercises.Backload accordingly? So if you go and can only do a small workout then have a small backload. If you have a massive session have a bigger backload.Then pay attention to how you react then adjust accordingly.I don't mean to come across rude here, however I train people with lots of different methods. At least half of my clients use Kettlebells exclusively and use CBL as their nutrition regime. Train hard, stimulate your muscles to need to grow and then eat!

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