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December 31, 2012 at 8:57 pm #5906
FairyKeymasterI want to hear the good, and the bad!
December 31, 2012 at 9:02 pm #129366
Cory McCarthyMemberI want to hear the good, and the bad!
Nothing bad to note for me, aside from the 'hangovers' after a CN.All positives... fat loss, muscle retention (and even growth) on CNS. Quick strength and muscle gain on CBL, with minimal fat gain (or none at all).Haven't had an ounce of health issues. If anything, I feel much healthier, even at peace (esp. on ULC).Cory
December 31, 2012 at 9:14 pm #129367
Robert GrayParticipantCNS led me to try bulletproof-style coffee with butter and coconut oil. My metabolism wasn't quite up to the challenge, and instead of feeling energetic, it made me feel like I had been punched in the sternum.On the plus side, My energy levels stay very stable on ULC days.
December 31, 2012 at 11:07 pm #129369
CainoParticipantCompulseively think about food, not much really changed if anything gained more fat on CN then i i did CBL, constantly hungry and super lethargic in the mornings
December 31, 2012 at 11:14 pm #129368
FairyGuestWow. Caino. It sounds like either there is something up with your hormones or you are just not cut out genetically for this sort of diet.
January 1, 2013 at 12:09 am #129370
MikehrMember-A bit stressful on CBL SA in terms of carb amounts and constant adjustments-CBL DB ultimate way to build solid mass.-CNS is great, effortless weightloss or lean gains depending on macro nutrient breakdown-Very simple easy to follow, definately idiot proof.
January 1, 2013 at 12:41 am #129371
CainoParticipantWow. Caino. It sounds like either there is something up with your hormones or you are just not cut out genetically for this sort of diet.
Your on the money there friend, on a type of HRT in saying this though my mood is alot better since HRT and im weaning off the medication now it will be very very interesting to see what happens to my body if things change, but istill feel i progressed better on CBL as i posted in the CBL forum i think my body just doesnt like to constantly eat fats, follwed CN to an ultimate T and really relyed on fats alot more this time and if anything, yes i feel a lot more sloppy/irritable/hungry/compulseively or reallly relying on foods for satisfaction,IMO a 23 year old dude shouldnt be thinking like this
January 1, 2013 at 12:49 am #129372
MikehrMemberWait so you were on HRT while on CBL or CNS? whats your HRT dose if you dont mind me asking?
January 1, 2013 at 2:41 am #129373
maxwkwMemberI've been on hrt for 2 years now and my results since having been on have been much better in the muscle gain department. My dose is 200mg/week. Which puts me ~1000ng/dl
January 1, 2013 at 2:50 am #129374
CainoParticipantWait so you were on HRT while on CBL or CNS? whats your HRT dose if you dont mind me asking?
on a trial HRT, called Clompophine Citrate (clomid) been using it since i started both protocols 5mg daily
January 1, 2013 at 3:10 am #129375
MikehrMemberoh thats what I am on now for pct…. haha
January 1, 2013 at 3:15 am #129376
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorI don't have any bad experiences with either diets.I've fixed my personal food issues and learn how to use what foods for certain goals, I've lost fat, gained a significant amount of muscle, have much healthier hair and nails and a big increase in sex drive (which is good and bad depending on the situation)
January 1, 2013 at 3:30 am #129377
CainoParticipantoh thats what I am on now for pct.... haha
whats pct?and also i takr 25mg not 5mg per day
January 1, 2013 at 3:31 am #129378
MikehrMemberPost Cycle Therapy (what you do after gear). Make me feel like hell fucking hate the stuff.
January 1, 2013 at 4:04 am #129379
CainoParticipanttry having no T what so ever man, i bet you a million bucks having no T is a major head fuck!, what symptoms on the clomid are you experienceing? the only one execpt for better mood, stress level, libido is shortness of breath
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