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I don't get it, when I bought CBL, I couldn't put it down. I read the whole thing (very critically I may add) in three days. I guess some people just don't care about the mechanics and just want to know what they are supposed to do.
CBL is a book you can read 3-4 or 5 times in a row I think.
I agree. I re-read at least two or three chapters every week.
The podcast with the interview from Arnold's assistant goes more in depth.
+1You can also read chapter 43 in the book. Do most people read the ENTIRE book? I'm starting to think most people don't...
Yep the post interview podcast, Kiefer mentions this. It's the laziness of people. If they get the information without actually looking/reading for it, they wouldn't care as much. It's all this give me give me crap.
I don't get it, when I bought CBL, I couldn't put it down. I read the whole thing (very critically I may add) in three days. I guess some people just don't care about the mechanics and just want to know what they are supposed to do.
It's the education that's going downhill in the states. Very few people take the time to learn. I read the book a couple times as well. Even try to google resources.
It has less to do with glycogen and more to do with the "insulin memory" effect. If you get a big insulin spike then fast and have a little bit of carbs, the body will "remember" the insulin spike from the night before and give you a big spike from just a little bit of carbs. This is where the anabolic benefits from fasted training comes from. It only works if you had carbs the night before.Yes if you train at 9 am it is the same, as long as you are fasted.
So if i train fasted at 10-11am and end about 12, I'll still consume carbs pwo to take advantage of this insulin memory effect right? Just clarifying as I'm not sure if this would be classified as a morning fasted workout or an afternoon session since no carbs pwo for the latter.
Well if I had the book, I wouldn't be asking questions.It's a bit out of reach for me financially (in my country it's like 1/4th of monthly earnings, and I'm not even making money yet), so making best of what I can find here... I have Carb Nite book thou.
Not everyone's got the money.I would recommend the book to any one but if it was between that and the bills I know which would come first.These guys are usually very helpful but I guess they get tired of answering the same old questions!
Well I know this is an old question. I was aware that you should backload the day before, just didn't know WHY.Guys told me, so this is all set, thanks very much for answers!
Well if I had the book, I wouldn't be asking questions.It's a bit out of reach for me financially (in my country it's like 1/4th of monthly earnings, and I'm not even making money yet), so making best of what I can find here... I have Carb Nite book thou.
Bro , I'm sure most of us have the book and I still ask questions, no worries 🙂
The podcast with the interview from Arnold's assistant goes more in depth.
+1You can also read chapter 43 in the book. Do most people read the ENTIRE book? I'm starting to think most people don't...
I get that feeling too...
The podcast with the interview from Arnold's assistant goes more in depth.
+1You can also read chapter 43 in the book. Do most people read the ENTIRE book? I'm starting to think most people don't...
I get that feeling too...
I agree, but getting clarification always helps
ALSO, as mentioned before many of times even by kiefer himself science is forever changing, therefore we have to make adjustments, the book is what a year old maybe? and it needs a second version already
It has less to do with glycogen and more to do with the "insulin memory" effect. If you get a big insulin spike then fast and have a little bit of carbs, the body will "remember" the insulin spike from the night before and give you a big spike from just a little bit of carbs. This is where the anabolic benefits from fasted training comes from. It only works if you had carbs the night before.Yes if you train at 9 am it is the same, as long as you are fasted.
So if i train fasted at 10-11am and end about 12, I'll still consume carbs pwo to take advantage of this insulin memory effect right? Just clarifying as I'm not sure if this would be classified as a morning fasted workout or an afternoon session since no carbs pwo for the latter.
Correct, you can do this as long as you are coming off an overnight fast.
Well if I had the book, I wouldn't be asking questions.It's a bit out of reach for me financially (in my country it's like 1/4th of monthly earnings, and I'm not even making money yet), so making best of what I can find here... I have Carb Nite book thou.
Oh no I wasn't trying to be a jerk, was just referring to fact that there is a lot of questions asked that can be simply answered by referring to the book. I don't mind answering them, but just I'm trying to empower people. My apologies.
It has less to do with glycogen and more to do with the "insulin memory" effect. If you get a big insulin spike then fast and have a little bit of carbs, the body will "remember" the insulin spike from the night before and give you a big spike from just a little bit of carbs. This is where the anabolic benefits from fasted training comes from. It only works if you had carbs the night before.Yes if you train at 9 am it is the same, as long as you are fasted.
So if i train fasted at 10-11am and end about 12, I'll still consume carbs pwo to take advantage of this insulin memory effect right? Just clarifying as I'm not sure if this would be classified as a morning fasted workout or an afternoon session since no carbs pwo for the latter.
Correct, you can do this as long as you are coming off an overnight fast.I think the post workout carbs ONLY come if you train EARLY in the morning. Even if you fast until lunchtime, your body's circadian rhythms still prevail. From the book:"Immediately after the morning training, therefore, things remainexactly as if training at the ideal time including the carbs: the posttraining-formula is identical to normal.""Middle Training includes training any time between thefirst meal of the day to shortly after noon and is possibly the worsttime to train for Carb Back-Loading because, unfortunately, nospecial hormonal scenarios or bio rhythms exist from which wecould gain advantage."So it is not the fasting that causes the "insulin memory" but is the time of training that matters. Don't have the PWO carbs after your noon-ish workout.
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