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Hypothetical question. Would it matter where your calories are spread during the backload? Maybe youd want to eat your highest amount of carbs and fat (hence calories) at the start of the backload and tapper the last meal back somewhat, maybe only in terms of fat amount. Dunno. Thoughts?Early into my backloading experiments I tried eating all my carbs in the first meal and eating only a protein/fat meal before bed, thought this would help me get into fat burning quicker at night. It didnt seem to work as well as spreading the same food out up until bed time. Started losing strength in the gym, and looked sloshier in the mornings.
Well it could work if you wanted it too, however...you're suppose to eat carbs till you get to bed or pass out. I've eatten carbs (once) and passed out. Eat the last carb meal an hour or two before bed. Hopefully this will help
Hypothetical question. Would it matter where your calories are spread during the backload? Maybe youd want to eat your highest amount of carbs and fat (hence calories) at the start of the backload and tapper the last meal back somewhat, maybe only in terms of fat amount. Dunno. Thoughts?Early into my backloading experiments I tried eating all my carbs in the first meal and eating only a protein/fat meal before bed, thought this would help me get into fat burning quicker at night. It didnt seem to work as well as spreading the same food out up until bed time. Started losing strength in the gym, and looked sloshier in the mornings.
I don't really think it matters. However I end up eating the way you described anyway. The first meal after my backload is always my biggest.
It would depend on quite a few factors. I am wondering how long the insulin spike lasts from a huge backload? And if adding more fat to the mix would be more likely hinder results. During the backload fat isn't necessarily required but with what Kiefer has stated is “don't worry about the fat when PAIRED with carbs”. I don't know if he would recommend purposely adding in more fat to the backload without carbs like you are doing before the backload. This is just one of those "I wonder" statements thought.Ibob, you said you usually end up eating protein/fat before you go to bed on your backloading days?
Okay what about sugar? I know ice cream has a ton along with other delicious treats. Good bad?
I try to avoid things where sugar is the first ingredient and limit the amounts of things I eat where it is in the first three ingredients. I used to smash 3 pints of ice cream but have started getting better results sticking to maybe only 1 pint. Sugar is the second ingredient for the ice cream I eat. Some people can get away with more table sugar, and thus more fructose. As always, it just depends.
This is keeping me very interested though, by adding more fat to the backloads, I'm thinking of trying to down my first Gluten-Free Pizza from Dominos this Friday >=DTex - did you do it? Was it good? Thinking of getting it also. Haven't had pizza since finding out I was gluten intolerant back in October (I don't miss it, just interested in trying something different).
http://www.dangerouslyhardcore.com/1733/hi-tech-nutrient-conversion-lessons-for-carb-back-loading/Thought this would pique interest in some of you guys, I'm going to keep mine clean for the majority and go dirty for the final backload meal if I feel like getting something filthy to eat from now on
http://www.dangerouslyhardcore.com/1733/hi-tech-nutrient-conversion-lessons-for-carb-back-loading/Thought this would pique interest in some of you guys, I'm going to keep mine clean for the majority and go dirty for the final backload meal if I feel like getting something filthy to eat from now on
Sounds like a plan. This is how I always backloaded.
I'm wondering if Keifer means limit fat or no fat in the first meal during the backload? For example, is a little butter with rice/potatoes alright? He also says to limit fat for maximum fat loss, what if muscle/strength gain is more of a concern? I have a feeling he might have to chime in about this.
I'm wondering if Keifer means limit fat or no fat in the first meal during the backload? For example, is a little butter with rice/potatoes alright? He also says to limit fat for maximum fat loss, what if muscle/strength gain is more of a concern? I have a feeling he might have to chime in about this.
I'd assume that even a little fat in your clean meals would be essential for muscle growth- your LPL and HSL in your sarcomeres target fat bound to glucose for build (glucose gets converted to glycerol to allow production of triglycerides). So have a little fun to the first meals, just don't go too far until your last meal during the backload
I'm wondering if Keifer means limit fat or no fat in the first meal during the backload? For example, is a little butter with rice/potatoes alright? He also says to limit fat for maximum fat loss, what if muscle/strength gain is more of a concern? I have a feeling he might have to chime in about this.
Once again this one of those things that can be done to further tweak the diet. Many people including Kiefer himself lost a ton of fat by just eating straight junk for the Carb Nite. The eat clean first is something that can be done to take it a little further. I would say it is something you shoulder consider doing for CBL though.
P.S. you should select palmitic and stearic acid as your fat sources for the backload (omega 3's as well, but have those later toward the end, I'd imagine as omega 3's absorb better with saturated fats- I forgot the reason why, but I remember reading how Meadows said absorption is better due to a coupling effect). Avoid monounsaturated (fat cells hoard these chains), and especially polyunsaturated omega 6, as omega 6 has a higher tendency to be oxidized with the toxicity carbs provide, and are often big components in lipoproteins, hence once oxidized, LDL will gradually get smaller and get stuck in lesions in the blood vessels, which is an ultimate factor in heart disease, as it is difficult for HDL to help get it back out
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