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Hmm. Those women just don't know any better I'm afraid. Hello osteoporosis + early menopause.
If they're not even trying to diet by regular conventional means (cutting calories), they're not motivated whatsoever. End of story. I couldn't ever imagine trying to convince them to try my diet or anything close to it. My family partakes in buying party-sized tubs of cookies and brownies from the grocery store's bakery, which I eat but my family can't understand why I'm still getting thinner. It confuses them most when I bring home fast food or order pizza, and when I'm eating bacon and tons of butter. It only frustrates them more. However, I could get really lean and sway my female cousins to try it. Then it would percolate to my aunts, eventually back to my mom who would start cooking better meals for the family and it could go from there. You just have to plant seeds and make it all feel like their idea. And when they start, be EXTREMELY supportive.
I gave up on trying to talk my family into being healthy a long time ago. They never listen. If I gain muscle or lose fat, the only comments I get are "You are getting too muscular, it doesn't look good" or "Are you taking steroids?".Ignorant bunch.
I get that one, too. I like to reply: "no, but thanks for asking."Some people are not disciplined enough for even the most lenient diet. Some people simply aren't disciplined in any manner in their lives. Like diabetics who 'sneak' shitty food every day, when they are only hurting themselves... who are they 'sneaking' from? Just a side-effect of their own guilt.Cory
"You are getting too muscular, it doesn't look good"
Got that one too. I got a carpal tunnel syndrome on my right hand fixed quite some time ago and my mums "diagnosis" was that it had been caused by working out too much and the added forearm muscle pressing on the wrist. Always the first to justify laziness.
I think when people say that, they have the impression that we approach training the same way a woman who loses weight does, that is we try to fit the social ideal body. Most of us aren't trying to do that, we trying to be abnormal, plus we enjoy doing it, unlike the girl dieting. They don't understand because exercise is painful to them.
So true for most people. Seriously, people need to learn to suck it up, and grow from it (no pun intended). Especially whiney 'men', bitching about it... fucking man the fuck up!Christ, I suffer worse injuries in full-contact fighting than I've EVER received from lifting (b/c I use proper form).Cory
I've tried to teach members of my family a bit of basic knowledge on nutrition. Sadly, it usually falls on deaf ears. My sister is the worst. She's 27 and about 25st at 5'6". I tried explaining to her to what carbs/protein/fats are, ect. but it's in one ear and out the other. She thinks she's eating healthily having wholegrain wraps 2-3 times a day. I swear that's all she eats apart from cereal. It wouldn't be so bad, but it's the shit she puts on them. Sugar coated-sweet chilli chicken and cheese. Yesterday it was bacon and cheese...I give up offering advice to her. It's not worth the hassle to me.
I've tried to teach members of my family a bit of basic knowledge on nutrition. Sadly, it usually falls on deaf ears. My sister is the worst. She's 27 and about 25st at 5'6". I tried explaining to her to what carbs/protein/fats are, ect. but it's in one ear and out the other. She thinks she's eating healthily having wholegrain wraps 2-3 times a day. I swear that's all she eats apart from cereal. It wouldn't be so bad, but it's the shit she puts on them. Sugar coated-sweet chilli chicken and cheese. Yesterday it was bacon and cheese...I give up offering advice to her. It's not worth the hassle to me.
Diet/Nutrition is very much in the league of politics and religion. Most people are so passionate about their "beliefs" they won't listen to even the most logical arguments if it proves their beliefs wrong.
I've tried to teach members of my family a bit of basic knowledge on nutrition. Sadly, it usually falls on deaf ears. My sister is the worst. She's 27 and about 25st at 5'6". I tried explaining to her to what carbs/protein/fats are, ect. but it's in one ear and out the other. She thinks she's eating healthily having wholegrain wraps 2-3 times a day. I swear that's all she eats apart from cereal. It wouldn't be so bad, but it's the shit she puts on them. Sugar coated-sweet chilli chicken and cheese. Yesterday it was bacon and cheese...I give up offering advice to her. It's not worth the hassle to me.
Diet/Nutrition is very much in the league of politics and religion. Most people are so passionate about their "beliefs" they won't listen to even the most logical arguments if it proves their beliefs wrong.
This is very well put!That said, some people are completely uneducated, and don't care to change / lack the will to commit to a healthful diet of any type.They only start to care, briefly, when something goes wrong with their health thanks to their terrible habits. I say briefly, b/c some people, once a situation has been mended, will revert back to the habits that got them there. This is usually despite verbal 'intentions' to put a rest to old ways, in light of tragedy, and be more mindful.Cory
I gave up on trying to talk my family into being healthy a long time ago. They never listen. If I gain muscle or lose fat, the only comments I get are "You are getting too muscular, it doesn't look good" or "Are you taking steroids?".Ignorant bunch.
I get that one, too. I like to reply: "no, but thanks for asking."Some people are not disciplined enough for even the most lenient diet. Some people simply aren't disciplined in any manner in their lives. Like diabetics who 'sneak' shitty food every day, when they are only hurting themselves... who are they 'sneaking' from? Just a side-effect of their own guilt.Cory
Good idea 🙂 I can understand how it would be offensive for someone to ask that. Hell, if I had people asking me if I was slipping horse tranquilizers to lose weight, or if I was secretly bulimic, I would probably get quite pissed at them. But it's great that you can take that as a compliment 🙂
I've tried to teach members of my family a bit of basic knowledge on nutrition. Sadly, it usually falls on deaf ears. My sister is the worst. She's 27 and about 25st at 5'6". I tried explaining to her to what carbs/protein/fats are, ect. but it's in one ear and out the other. She thinks she's eating healthily having wholegrain wraps 2-3 times a day. I swear that's all she eats apart from cereal. It wouldn't be so bad, but it's the shit she puts on them. Sugar coated-sweet chilli chicken and cheese. Yesterday it was bacon and cheese...I give up offering advice to her. It's not worth the hassle to me.
Diet/Nutrition is very much in the league of politics and religion. Most people are so passionate about their "beliefs" they won't listen to even the most logical arguments if it proves their beliefs wrong.
Alas, I've been there and done that myself. Much to my own detriment. Now I want to understand it all on a much deeper level. Science please.
I've tried to teach members of my family a bit of basic knowledge on nutrition. Sadly, it usually falls on deaf ears. My sister is the worst. She's 27 and about 25st at 5'6". I tried explaining to her to what carbs/protein/fats are, ect. but it's in one ear and out the other. She thinks she's eating healthily having wholegrain wraps 2-3 times a day. I swear that's all she eats apart from cereal. It wouldn't be so bad, but it's the shit she puts on them. Sugar coated-sweet chilli chicken and cheese. Yesterday it was bacon and cheese...I give up offering advice to her. It's not worth the hassle to me.
What's wrong with bacon and cheese . . . ? Sounds super yum!
So I have a bit of an emotional dilemma which goes something like this. My father is a big unit, he's 66 years old and for as long as I can remember he has been enjoying his whiskey and peanuts, slowly increasing his waist size and generally not eating as he could/should.A couple of years ago he had a minor heart attack and required a stent to be placed in his heart to keep one of his valves open - a pretty 'common' procedure for aging men in the UK when they experience this type of event. At the time though it was pretty horrendous and he subsequently got put onto a program of statins and a CR diet involving mainly veg soup and fish. He lost a lot of weight that way, as anyone would when going from a full fat and alcohol induced cardiac event to some form of normality. Over the past year or so though he has crept back into his old ways and the weight is coming back quite noticeably. His doctor is trying to restrict his diet again to help but considering his age, mental attachment to fatty food and condition I was wondering if CNS would be a better option for him?I'm relatively new to CNS but understand it does work. My dilemma is more regarding advising someone else to do it, who may not follow it as rigidly as he should and then ostensibly I may actually add to his problem, not help to fix it.Does anyone else have any experience with this? I know there are quite a few trainers out there who might have an opinion or someone with personal experience.Thanks guys, appreciate your thoughts!
I gave a buddy of mine the cliff's notes to CNS/ketogenic dieting when he told me he wanted to lose 20 pounds by Christmas. He lost 20 pounds by December 6th. If you can get people to at least try it for a week or two and see how quickly it can work for them and not just other people, the convincing happens fairly organically.
Wow. Amazing. I did a similar thing with one of my friends, and she's hooked now 🙂
I gave up on trying to talk my family into being healthy a long time ago. They never listen. If I gain muscle or lose fat, the only comments I get are "You are getting too muscular, it doesn't look good" or "Are you taking steroids?".Ignorant bunch.
I get that one, too. I like to reply: "no, but thanks for asking."Some people are not disciplined enough for even the most lenient diet. Some people simply aren't disciplined in any manner in their lives. Like diabetics who 'sneak' shitty food every day, when they are only hurting themselves... who are they 'sneaking' from? Just a side-effect of their own guilt.Cory
Good idea 🙂 I can understand how it would be offensive for someone to ask that. Hell, if I had people asking me if I was slipping horse tranquilizers to lose weight, or if I was secretly bulimic, I would probably get quite pissed at them. But it's great that you can take that as a compliment 🙂
🙂I take it as them thinking my level of size was only attainable with a bottle, and b/c I know it wasn't... I just have to smile. 😉Cory
I gave up on trying to talk my family into being healthy a long time ago. They never listen. If I gain muscle or lose fat, the only comments I get are "You are getting too muscular, it doesn't look good" or "Are you taking steroids?".Ignorant bunch.
I get that one, too. I like to reply: "no, but thanks for asking."Some people are not disciplined enough for even the most lenient diet. Some people simply aren't disciplined in any manner in their lives. Like diabetics who 'sneak' shitty food every day, when they are only hurting themselves... who are they 'sneaking' from? Just a side-effect of their own guilt.Cory
Good idea 🙂 I can understand how it would be offensive for someone to ask that. Hell, if I had people asking me if I was slipping horse tranquilizers to lose weight, or if I was secretly bulimic, I would probably get quite pissed at them. But it's great that you can take that as a compliment 🙂
🙂I take it as them thinking my level of size was only attainable with a bottle, and b/c I know it wasn't... I just have to smile. 😉Cory
I've been asked if take steroids before, I love responding "Not yet." I enjoy the shock most people are in because I find it funny that people think steroids are worse for you than heavy drinking, smoking, and prescription drugs.
I gave up on trying to talk my family into being healthy a long time ago. They never listen. If I gain muscle or lose fat, the only comments I get are "You are getting too muscular, it doesn't look good" or "Are you taking steroids?".Ignorant bunch.
I get that one, too. I like to reply: "no, but thanks for asking."Some people are not disciplined enough for even the most lenient diet. Some people simply aren't disciplined in any manner in their lives. Like diabetics who 'sneak' shitty food every day, when they are only hurting themselves... who are they 'sneaking' from? Just a side-effect of their own guilt.Cory
Good idea 🙂 I can understand how it would be offensive for someone to ask that. Hell, if I had people asking me if I was slipping horse tranquilizers to lose weight, or if I was secretly bulimic, I would probably get quite pissed at them. But it's great that you can take that as a compliment 🙂
🙂I take it as them thinking my level of size was only attainable with a bottle, and b/c I know it wasn't... I just have to smile. 😉Cory
I've been asked if take steroids before, I love responding "Not yet." I enjoy the shock most people are in because I find it funny that people think steroids are worse for you than heavy drinking, smoking, and prescription drugs.
;D ;D ;DHa ha, yes another one.... People who drink/smoke/take medication for fun heavily and they lecture you about the dangers of creatine/steroids/protein (all in the same league for them).
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