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Everything I've read says you should absorb about 50-60% of the nicotine in the gum. So 2mg= about 1mg.
Yea it was 1mg, my bad. "One milligram of nicotine has a pronounced thermogenic effect, which can be increased by approximately 100% by adding 100 mg caffeine. Increasing the nicotine dose to 2 mg does not increase the thermogenic effect but produces side effects in most subjects. Caffeine may be useful in preventing weight gain after smoking cessation if its thermogenic effect can be used to enhance nicotine's effect on long-term energy balance."
To Kiefer or anybody else that has done definitive research on it:What is the risk of nicotine being carcinogenic? -Adam
Anyone have experience using ECA stacks? I just went to CVS today and got myself an ECA stack and am considering using it, however I am already utilizing nicotine according to Kiefer's protocol and research studies (and its working quite well). Any opinions on whether I can use an ECA stack along with nicotine? Or would you recommend using ECA when I take a break from nicotine? Thanks guys
Anyone have experience using ECA stacks? I just went to CVS today and got myself an ECA stack and am considering using it, however I am already utilizing nicotine according to Kiefer's protocol and research studies (and its working quite well). Any opinions on whether I can use an ECA stack along with nicotine? Or would you recommend using ECA when I take a break from nicotine? Thanks guys
The ECA stack works, I haven't used it with CBL just because I think it's over kill and pretty rough on the system to take it for an extended period of time. You did get actual ephedra, right?I wouldn't mix the two, that just sounds like a recipe for disaster.
You have to buy it separately because Ephedra is illegal as a weight loss supplement now.You can buy bronkaid for the ephedra, and then just get some caffeine pills, and aspirin if you want to add it in, but I still question the effectiveness of adding the aspirin to the stack.
Yea I ran EC while on a starvation diet (PSMF), and worked quite well. I wouldn't mix it with nicotine, just throw some caffeine in there with it if you haven't already
Sounds fun, I was in High School during the ephedra craze; I remember taking one of my buddies to the hospital because he was popping ephedra like candy. But what’s in the stack how many pills, per day of which supplements, thanks again forum.
25mg E, 200mg C, Dosing protocol varies for A. X2-3/Day.
+1 usually add an 81mg aspirin tab to each dosage of the dtack
The ECA stack works, I haven't used it with CBL just because I think it's over kill and pretty rough on the system to take it for an extended period of time. You did get actual ephedra, right?I wouldn't mix the two, that just sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Ephedra is crap; you should always try to get your hands on pure ephedrine (HCl in most cases), which is the prime working ingredient in ephedra. I don't necessarily see why those agents should never be mixed, but as always starting out low and assessing tolerance is key here.
...but I still question the effectiveness of adding the aspirin to the stack.
This!
Aspirin serves two purposes in the ECA stack. To prevent high blood preasure and to increase the half life of ephedrine.
I always thought apirins role was to inhibit prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which when mixed with caffein, prolongs the thermogenic effects by sustaining elevated cAMP…. I could be wrong but that is what i was told a while back.
You guys are awesome. Any way short term effects are seen when with ECA 1-3wks or is it longer? I have Ephedra and it made me nauseous, so did yohimbine.
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