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October 7, 2013 at 11:51 am #9979
Brian M EckstromParticipantalways used ON Gold 100% Whey in the past, usually chocolate mint, but only recently ventured out and tried the cookies 'n' cream flavor and just noticed high fructose corn syrup in the ingredients. only 2g sugars per scoop. issue or not when planning to use only post workout?
October 7, 2013 at 12:01 pm #204953
CBachelor17MemberI dont think it will really hurt you. But ON is not a very good protein in general.I recommend Iso-100, Isopure, or creating your own mix on TrueNutrition.com personally
October 7, 2013 at 12:09 pm #204952
Richard SchmittModerator2g will not effect you. If kept PWO you'll be fine.
October 7, 2013 at 2:33 pm #204951
TCBParticipantI dont think it will really hurt you. But ON is not a very good protein in general.I recommend Iso-100, Isopure, or creating your own mix on TrueNutrition.com personally
+1 Plus, it's gross. I ran out while waiting for my TN order, so went to GNC and picked up a small thing of double dark chocolate.. It was nasty. I used it 3 times and just returned it.
October 7, 2013 at 3:56 pm #204954
CBachelor17MemberThe blend is just not ideal really at all. They have two different Isolate forms, Concentrate, and a tiny bit of Hydro Whey all mixed together. Even on a budget you can find a pure Isolate or Hydrolyzed Isolate for cheaper.
October 8, 2013 at 2:00 am #204955
Brian M EckstromParticipantoh well. i'll finish what i have. it doesn't taste horrible but it's nothing like the dymatize elite xt. i'm sure y'all will probably say thats a cheap blend, but the taste is fanatical (banana nut) and it's a 12 hr release, so it makes me not stress if i cant eat on time.
October 8, 2013 at 2:22 am #204956
CBachelor17Member12 hour release is exactly what you dont want….
October 8, 2013 at 3:14 am #204957
Brian M EckstromParticipantcrap. so should i not be eating meats throughout the day?
October 8, 2013 at 3:17 am #204958
Trevor G FullbrightModerator12 hour release is exactly what you dont want....
I'm a little confused by this? Are you talking about avoiding it before fasting?
October 8, 2013 at 9:44 am #204959
CBachelor17MemberIm talking about having a 12 hour raised insulin level due to a constant release of FFA from the XR Protein. We keep them at bay by eating fat with them. Hence Kiefers suggestion to couple all of our "Shakes" with CO or MCT. And to use Isolate Whey not Casein. You should certainly be eating meat throughout the day. From whole food, fatty meat, or meat+fat.
October 8, 2013 at 1:38 pm #204960
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorIm talking about having a 12 hour raised insulin level due to a constant release of FFA from the XR Protein. We keep them at bay by eating fat with them. Hence Kiefers suggestion to couple all of our "Shakes" with CO or MCT. And to use Isolate Whey not Casein. You should certainly be eating meat throughout the day. From whole food, fatty meat, or meat+fat.
Casein would be very unlikely to raise insulin levels and keep them elevated throughout 12 hours. It's not much different the meat, and providing you pair it with a fat source it makes a better option to whey if you have no choice but to use shakes during the day.
October 8, 2013 at 4:50 pm #204961
CBachelor17MemberPairing it with fat I'm sure would be fine. I just personally don't see a 12 hr XR to be optimal. Much like drinking BCAA throut the day isn't, a whey concentrate + fat shake would probably be the closest to food in that real food doesn't take 6-12 hours to digest
October 8, 2013 at 5:11 pm #204962
Brandon D ChristParticipantPairing it with fat I'm sure would be fine. I just personally don't see a 12 hr XR to be optimal. Much like drinking BCAA throut the day isn't, a whey concentrate + fat shake would probably be the closest to food in that real food doesn't take 6-12 hours to digest
You sure about that? I don't know much about the subject, but I always heard whole protein sources keep amino acid levels elevated for 24 hours. That's why real food supports all day protein synthesis better than shakes.
October 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm #204963
GnomerParticipantPairing it with fat I'm sure would be fine. I just personally don't see a 12 hr XR to be optimal. Much like drinking BCAA throut the day isn't, a whey concentrate + fat shake would probably be the closest to food in that real food doesn't take 6-12 hours to digest
You sure about that? I don't know much about the subject, but I always heard whole protein sources keep amino acid levels elevated for 24 hours. That's why real food supports all day protein synthesis better than shakes.
I have read the same which has been proved in several studies and why the whole "you need to eat proten every 3 hours" is crap
October 8, 2013 at 5:56 pm #204964
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorPairing it with fat I'm sure would be fine. I just personally don't see a 12 hr XR to be optimal. Much like drinking BCAA throut the day isn't, a whey concentrate + fat shake would probably be the closest to food in that real food doesn't take 6-12 hours to digest
You sure about that? I don't know much about the subject, but I always heard whole protein sources keep amino acid levels elevated for 24 hours. That's why real food supports all day protein synthesis better than shakes.
Assuming you eat enough, this is correct. The body will simply adjust the speed of digestion and breaking whole proteins down to animo acids as it's needed, which will pretty much keep a level of amino acids in your blood at most time.
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