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April 29, 2012 at 8:23 am #1525
WezforceKeymasterIm a noobie with carb-back loading. I have bought and read the book, but still need a little guidance here and there with the supplements. This only have regards to the protein powders that include BCAAS( Leucine) .I understand that BCAAS and leucine spikes insulin, but i just want to know how these products influence carb-back loading.I know ON is expensive, but ive been using their protein powders all my years training in the gym.This is what im taking:Upon wakingWhey isolate 10g- 10g ON HYDROWHEYcofee with coconut milkPre-trainingWhey isolate 10g- 10g ON Gold standard wheycofee with coconut milkCreatine 5gPost trainingON Hydrobuilder( Includes the creatine and leucine and the other amino acids.)ON Glyco maizeCaffiene 200mg-600mgIm currently at a 14% BF so, Im skipping the intra training shake for the moment and im following the strength accumulating variation for a few weeks. Is that correct? My goal is to get to 9% BF.Before bedI have ON Gold standard Cassien. I do realize that it doesnt make a difference to take cassien before bed, but i still have like 1kg of ON Gold standard Cassien left lol. Like i said im still new at carb back loading, any help will be appreciated.Thanx
April 30, 2012 at 5:05 pm #44825
Stephen DavisParticipantFor the AM, I would not take hydrowhey. Hydrolyzed proteins can spike insulin, so stick with WPI. Also, 20G of any protein is too much. Same for your pre-training. I would cut it back to simply 10g of wpi and let it go. I would add caffeine in here as well. I take 600mg pre-training and 200mg post. The rest looks good to me.Best of luck to you.
May 16, 2012 at 4:15 pm #44826
russellGuestIt's interesting to me that you are taking protein, especially whey, upon waking, when Kiefer clearly states do not eat anything within 3-4 hours of waking, just coffee and heavy cream or coconut oil. Why are you doing this?
May 16, 2012 at 5:08 pm #44827
Lasse ElsbakParticipant@russell: That's the AM-accelerator, and It's actually recommended upon waking if you're doing DB, or if it has been more than 12 hours since your last meal.
May 16, 2012 at 5:26 pm #44828
Brandon D ChristParticipantOne thing I noticed is that Kiefer rarely talks about Density Bulking. So far I think it is best to follow the DB protocol excactly as is in the book and ignore all the other interviews and articles by Kiefer.
May 17, 2012 at 6:48 am #44829
WezforceGuestLol to be honest ive acually learned alot more since ive posted that.Just by reading all the posts on this forum.Anyways When i wake up i drink coffee with whip cream and coconut oil and then later ill have the AM Accelerator shake, before i have my first meal. Which is always more than 4 hours later.
June 1, 2012 at 2:14 am #44830
Damon AmatoParticipantDrop the whip cream . It wil spike insulin ! And def drop Hydrowhey before workout . Other than that it's all good .
umm, what? Since when?
June 1, 2012 at 2:17 am #44831
Damon AmatoParticipantWhip cream has sugar
I think you're thinking of half and half. There is no sugar in heavy whipping cream.
June 1, 2012 at 2:27 am #44832
Damon AmatoParticipantheavy cream = whipping cream = heavy whipping cream.
June 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm #44833
MJCMemberfrom experience glycomaize is not the best Waxy maize product for use post workout. You want to use a waxy with as much pure amylopectin or whatever… Ids, species, and I hear Dymatize make decent wms products for use post workout
June 8, 2012 at 3:02 pm #44834
barakGuestHas anyone tried including 1-2 ounces of wheat grass juice regularly to there CNS or CBL?
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