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March 12, 2012 at 6:07 pm #995
zewskiMemberHey guys I just had a quick questionI know the CNS is intended for strictly weight-loss so we shouldn't expect to break many if any PR's while on the diet. However how drastically should we cut back on training? In the past I've cut volume/frequency way back, but while CNS is an ultra low-carb diet, my cals tend to be at maintenance so I'm not really in a caloric defecit. http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/weight-training-for-fat-loss-part-2.htmlI'm guessing I should cut out any higher rep stuff (due to the lack of carbs), but how frequently can/should we workout if we keep the intensity high, but the volume low. Sort of like a strength-cycle.The reason I ask is because I assumed I'd have to cut my training way back, but I've seen a number of powerlifters use Carb Nite and continue training with generally the same volume.
March 12, 2012 at 6:37 pm #39155
Conrado TiuParticipantHey guys I just had a quick questionI know the CNS is intended for strictly weight-loss so we shouldn't expect to break many if any PR's while on the diet. However how drastically should we cut back on training? In the past I've cut volume/frequency way back, but while CNS is an ultra low-carb diet, my cals tend to be at maintenance so I'm not really in a caloric defecit. http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/weight-training-for-fat-loss-part-2.htmlI'm guessing I should cut out any higher rep stuff (due to the lack of carbs), but how frequently can/should we workout if we keep the intensity high, but the volume low. Sort of like a strength-cycle.The reason I ask is because I assumed I'd have to cut my training way back, but I've seen a number of powerlifters use Carb Nite and continue training with generally the same volume.
See this Keifer article: muscle also keeps and uses triglycerides for fuel. It's a different type of energy. No reason why you shouldn't stay strong. http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/nutrition/the-hulk-factor/
March 12, 2012 at 6:53 pm #39156
Damon AmatoParticipantIt's also why Kiefer > Lyle McDonald.
March 12, 2012 at 7:44 pm #39157
Lasse ElsbakParticipantIt really isn't a problem. I've been setting new PRs all the time while on CNS. You don't need to cut back on anything, although it might take you a few days to get used to training on fat instead of carbs.
March 12, 2012 at 9:34 pm #39158
IOWA.PharmDMemberSame here, getting stronger (a lot) while doing CNS. If you tell yourself you're weak b/c you don't have any carbs, then you are weak If you want to get after it and get stronger, you will.
March 12, 2012 at 9:39 pm #39159
zewskiMemberNice! Thanks for the responses guys.It's nice to see in that article that Kiefer was using a 6-day split and saw results on CNS. Looks like I'll hit the gym tomorrow after all ;D
March 12, 2012 at 10:24 pm #39160
sckielyParticipantI have been swapping between CBL and CNS since Xmas! Just experimenting with how to get results.During DB I packed on 4kg of muscle in 9 weeks roughly, added 2% bf but after a quick stint of CNS I was back to 14.5%I always train heavy even when not using barbells and I have only had a couple of sessions that I have felt weak on either program and this has always been a transition period!I am now doing CNS to get under 10% and all my lifts are still going up heaps!
March 12, 2012 at 10:24 pm #39161
bako71MemberI've gotten stronger and had pr's too. I always do my most strenous workout (Legs) on carb nite followed by 15- 20min of HIIT. No problems with energy here.
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