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November 8, 2012 at 12:02 pm #63761
CristaGuestDo y'all know anything about Trutein protein powder from Trunutrition Sciences?"Trutein: More Than Just ProteinWe are proud to introduce Trutein, an ultra-premium protein powder designed for professional athletes. We specifically formulated Trutein to be the best-tasting and most innovative protein available. Consequently, Trutein delivers more health benefits than any other existing protein. Some features include:Sustained-Release Protein Blend of Whey, Micellar Casein & Egg WhiteRecovery Module featuring Omega-3s & Nucleotides"It looks like what I think we should be looking for on CNS for those of us who are vegetarian and looking for a bit more protein without spiking insulin - Micellar Casein, egg white.... is this correct?
November 8, 2012 at 2:51 pm #63762
Cory McCarthyMemberDo y'all know anything about Trutein protein powder from Trunutrition Sciences?"Trutein: More Than Just ProteinWe are proud to introduce Trutein, an ultra-premium protein powder designed for professional athletes. We specifically formulated Trutein to be the best-tasting and most innovative protein available. Consequently, Trutein delivers more health benefits than any other existing protein. Some features include:Sustained-Release Protein Blend of Whey, Micellar Casein & Egg WhiteRecovery Module featuring Omega-3s & Nucleotides"It looks like what I think we should be looking for on CNS for those of us who are vegetarian and looking for a bit more protein without spiking insulin - Micellar Casein, egg white.... is this correct?
All protein spikes insulin, even a steak. Sustained-release is good, b/c it will slow the absorption, and therefore the spike will not be as intense and sudden, rather slow and steady. Eating fats or fiber with protein provides a similar effect.This would be a good protein for you, as it would offer some source variety... which I can tell you is hard to find as a Vegetarian. I pretty much rely on eggs, some cheeses and whey at certain times.Cory
November 9, 2012 at 1:19 am #63763
CristaGuestDo y'all know anything about Trutein protein powder from Trunutrition Sciences?"Trutein: More Than Just ProteinWe are proud to introduce Trutein, an ultra-premium protein powder designed for professional athletes. We specifically formulated Trutein to be the best-tasting and most innovative protein available. Consequently, Trutein delivers more health benefits than any other existing protein. Some features include:Sustained-Release Protein Blend of Whey, Micellar Casein & Egg WhiteRecovery Module featuring Omega-3s & Nucleotides"It looks like what I think we should be looking for on CNS for those of us who are vegetarian and looking for a bit more protein without spiking insulin - Micellar Casein, egg white.... is this correct?
All protein spikes insulin, even a steak. Sustained-release is good, b/c it will slow the absorption, and therefore the spike will not be as intense and sudden, rather slow and steady. Eating fats or fiber with protein provides a similar effect.This would be a good protein for you, as it would offer some source variety... which I can tell you is hard to find as a Vegetarian. I pretty much rely on eggs, some cheeses and whey at certain times.Cory
GREAT! thanks Cory. Because a week ago I ordered it and had it sent to the US where I'll be in a week but I didn't want to use it if it was going to wreck shit. I'm following your lead and relying on eggs, cheese and then I'll add whey too. With the shake, should I just make it with water or should I add some HWC for fat?
November 9, 2012 at 3:13 am #63764
Cory McCarthyMemberDo y'all know anything about Trutein protein powder from Trunutrition Sciences?"Trutein: More Than Just ProteinWe are proud to introduce Trutein, an ultra-premium protein powder designed for professional athletes. We specifically formulated Trutein to be the best-tasting and most innovative protein available. Consequently, Trutein delivers more health benefits than any other existing protein. Some features include:Sustained-Release Protein Blend of Whey, Micellar Casein & Egg WhiteRecovery Module featuring Omega-3s & Nucleotides"It looks like what I think we should be looking for on CNS for those of us who are vegetarian and looking for a bit more protein without spiking insulin - Micellar Casein, egg white.... is this correct?
All protein spikes insulin, even a steak. Sustained-release is good, b/c it will slow the absorption, and therefore the spike will not be as intense and sudden, rather slow and steady. Eating fats or fiber with protein provides a similar effect.This would be a good protein for you, as it would offer some source variety... which I can tell you is hard to find as a Vegetarian. I pretty much rely on eggs, some cheeses and whey at certain times.Cory
GREAT! thanks Cory. Because a week ago I ordered it and had it sent to the US where I'll be in a week but I didn't want to use it if it was going to wreck shit. I'm following your lead and relying on eggs, cheese and then I'll add whey too. With the shake, should I just make it with water or should I add some HWC for fat?
I just make my shakes w/ water (16 oz.). Post-workout, I would not add fat.Do eat cheese, but limit intake. I find I do fine around 5 oz. a day, quality cheddar. Check out pages 135-136 of the CNS book, all cheeses not highlighted in grey are best (the rest contain carb damage).Cory
November 18, 2012 at 10:05 pm #63765
BostonBullyGuestAre you sure your pea protein isn't spiking your insulin? If it is anything like the truenutrition gemma pea protein it has A LOT of Leucine in it. The Gemma is 8.72 grams of leucine per 100 grams of powder, and CFM whey is 9 grams of leucine per 100 grams of powder. We take 5 grams of leucine post workout to spike insulin so even taking one scoop or 30 grams is still going to give you 3 grams of leucine. Assuming your pea protein is the same as the gemma pea protein.EDIT: So according to the NOW foods site is says a 33g serving of the pea protein has 2.244 grams of leucine. I'm not sure how much leucine it takes to spike insulin but I think of all the proteins I have read about you have found a pretty good one for an ULC meal replacement.
November 18, 2012 at 10:24 pm #63766
Cory McCarthyMemberAre you sure your pea protein isn't spiking your insulin? If it is anything like the truenutrition gemma pea protein it has A LOT of Leucine in it. The Gemma is 8.72 grams of leucine per 100 grams of powder, and CFM whey is 9 grams of leucine per 100 grams of powder. We take 5 grams of leucine post workout to spike insulin so even taking one scoop or 30 grams is still going to give you 3 grams of leucine. Assuming your pea protein is the same as the gemma pea protein.EDIT: So according to the NOW foods site is says a 33g serving of the pea protein has 2.244 grams of leucine. I'm not sure how much leucine it takes to spike insulin but I think of all the proteins I have read about you have found a pretty good one for an ULC meal replacement.
I have actually stopped the pea protein, not due to any ill effects -- just switching things up. I was going by a study I posted on the forums elsewhere that showed the Vegan proteins as having less of an insulin impact than animal sourced proteins (in rats). That said, all protein spikes insulin.When I was using the pea protein, I had zero stalls.Cory
November 18, 2012 at 10:28 pm #63767
BostonBullyGuestI'm not a vegetarian but I am trying to find a quick protein source that is low to no carb, and won't significantly spike my insulin. This pea protein seems spot on, but I heard it taste fucking horrible.
November 18, 2012 at 10:31 pm #63768
Cory McCarthyMemberI'm not a vegetarian but I am trying to find a quick protein source that is low to no carb, and won't significantly spike my insulin. This pea protein seems spot on, but I heard it taste fucking horrible.
LOL. It tastes like pureed chick peas. Serious. You get used to it, though.Cory
November 18, 2012 at 10:33 pm #63769
BostonBullyGuestWhy did you stop taking it? Did you replace it with something?
November 19, 2012 at 2:09 am #63770
Cory McCarthyMemberWhy did you stop taking it? Did you replace it with something?
Yep, more eggs.Cory
November 19, 2012 at 3:02 am #63771
Robert GrayParticipantI'm not a vegetarian but I am trying to find a quick protein source that is low to no carb, and won't significantly spike my insulin. This pea protein seems spot on, but I heard it taste fucking horrible.
LOL. It tastes like pureed chick peas. Serious. You get used to it, though.Cory
+1. I drank it while I was doing the slow carb diet (please don't throw things at me) and grew to really like it. I'm drinking vanilla-flavored WPI right now, and now I find that I really miss the taste of pea protein with coffee and coconut milk in the morning.
November 21, 2012 at 2:09 am #63772
BronxMemberGuys I couldn't find the answer anywhere about Trutein Protein.Is the Isolate necessary or can I just go with the Trutein Protein or the Whey Protein?Thanks
December 22, 2012 at 11:27 am #63773
dudsyMemberI'm not a vegetarian but I am trying to find a quick protein source that is low to no carb, and won't significantly spike my insulin. This pea protein seems spot on, but I heard it taste fucking horrible.
2nd that. I got some and couldnt handle the taste. I now use micellar casein to reach my protein totals during ULC portion. I put up a link (in this thread i think) about a study showing how various proteins affect insulin release.
January 1, 2013 at 4:28 am #63774
monsoonParticipantI apologize if I haven't read this whole thread but I am a vegetarian and can only use whey and casein protein powders. Am I correct in stating that casein is good for early part of the ULC day because of the minimal insulin spike (but for the fact that it may have a few too many carbs) and that whey can be used post-workout because insulin spike at that point is okay?
January 1, 2013 at 4:40 am #63775
tzanghiParticipantI apologize if I haven't read this whole thread but I am a vegetarian and can only use whey and casein protein powders. Am I correct in stating that casein is good for early part of the ULC day because of the minimal insulin spike (but for the fact that it may have a few too many carbs) and that whey can be used post-workout because insulin spike at that point is okay?
Your first assumption is incorrect. Casein carries a good amount of leucine. Some people think the slow release minimizes this effect, but I think the fact that it is already broken down causes more of a raise in insulin. Whey post workout is good. Meat and eggs should be used unless you're backloading or Carb Niting. On another note, I have it on good word(a nutrition dude on another site whom I personally trust) that though pea+rice protein are complete together, they are not very bioavailable. I believe Robb Wolf has spoken to the same effect on the subject.
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